I welcome everybody and apologise for the delay in getting the meeting started in public session. Apologies have been received from Senators Malcolm Byrne and Cassells. Senator Sherlock will substitute for Senator Hoey. We have a little housekeeping to deal with, so I ask that the witnesses to bear with me while we do so. Can I take it that the draft minutes of our meeting of 15 November 2023 are formally agreed with no matters arising? Is that agreed? Agreed.
