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Seanad Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 28 Feb 1951

Vol. 39 No. 6

Imposition of Duties (Confirmation of Orders) Bill, 1951 (Certified Money Bill) — Second and Subsequent Stages.

Question proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

The Orders which the Bill confirms relate to five commodities which are in common use. These commodities are drinking glasses, peas, collapsible metal containers for packing tooth paste and similar items, vegetable oils and fats used to a large extent in the manufacture of margarine and paints, and distilled water which is used for medicinal purposes in dissolving drugs such as penicillin, morphia and streptomycin. All the industries which the Bill is designed to protect provide substantial employment in areas outside Dublin.

Senators, I am sure, will welcome the re-establishment of a glass industry at Waterford. The factory there is at present producing soda glassware and is engaged in cutting operations. The concern has an ambitious long-term programme which we confidently hope will be realised.

The duty on peas is in substitution for the previous duty of a halfpenny per pound which applied to peas imported from countries other than Britain and Canada. Quantitative control of imports of peas was discontinued with the coming into operation of the new duty.

The manufacture of collapsible metal containers of the "squeeze-out" variety has been carried on at Nenagh for some considerable time. This industry was originally protected by a duty on tin containers, and prior to the last war "squeeze-out" tubes were made largely of tin. During the recent war, for reasons of supply and economy, tin-coated lead and alloys began to be used in the making of collapsible tubes and accordingly, when it was decided to restore protection for the Nenagh factory, it was also decided to extend the tariff to all metal containers of the collapsible type.

Vegetable oils and fats are the raw materials for two important industries —margarine and paint manufacture. The country is, of course, dependent on external sources of supply for the raw materials used in the production of vegetable oils and fats.

The production and packing of distilled water for medicinal use is a new departure in this country. Senators are aware, I am sure, of the extent to which the country is dependent on external sources of supply for medicinal preparations, and they will welcome any enterprise which can make an efficient inroad on these imports.

We are living in times when circumstances change rapidly and in the short time since some of these Orders were made world conditions have altered appreciably. The extent to which the industries I have mentioned depend on imported raw materials varies but all of them increase the strength of the country's economy, particularly in times of stress. As Senators know, there already exists under the Supplies and Services (Temporary Provisions) Act power to reduce or suspend tariffs and the enactment of this Bill will not limit any action which it may be necessary to take in regard to supplies generally.

There are only one or two points I would like to raise in connection with this Bill. While we approve of the imposition of the duties imposed, I think we should voice our protest against the long delay. Those duties took effect mostly last September and it is now February before the matter comes before either House of the Oireachtas.

There are some articles and items to which I would like to see protection given and I would like the Parliamentary Secretary to take back to the Government from this House just one suggestion in relation to an industry that was very recently established in the Gaeltacht. It is an industry in which the people in the Gaeltacht are interested, the tomato industry. If we give protection under this Bill to the growing of peas, I do not see why we should not give similar protection to the growing of tomatoes, particularly in the areas concerned.

Captain Orpen

I would like to ask the Parliamentary Secretary for a little information about the purpose of this duty of 2d. per lb. on the import of peas. I take it that the protection is given primarily for the purpose of stimulating the production of peas that are going to be either canned or dried. I would like to know if he has any figures of the quantity of peas produced in this country for this purpose and what was the normal amount imported in the last few years. Is it the purpose of this duty to assist the growing of peas for drying or canning or is it to assist the processing and canning part of the industry? Could the Parliamentary Secretary give us any information as to the relative wholesale prices of peas in Britain and France and what is given here for them? I must not be taken as objecting in any way to the imposition of this duty, but I should like to have the information.

I only want to underline the question that has been asked by Senator Hawkins in regard to this matter of protecting one industry as against another. The imports of tomatoes for the year 1949 amounted to 135,544 cwts., and for the year 1950 they amounted to 142,645 cwts. I think some reasonable explanation ought to be given for the lack of adequate protection for that particular industry, particularly when we consider the protection that is now proposed for the pea industry. I am all in favour of that, but I certainly would like to have some information as to the difference in treatment of the two industries.

I am afraid that at this stage I am not prepared to enter into a controversy about the protection for the tomato industry, but I will bring the comments of the two Senators to the notice of the Minister for Industry and Commerce and the Minister for Agriculture.

Senator Orpen raised the question of peas and I think I would be well employed in giving him the information I have before me as to the necessity for the protection now proposed to be afforded to the production of peas. Prior to the last war, peas for drying and packing were not grown on a commercial scale here. Large quantities were imported cheaply and sold at a low price. With the interruption of international trade during the war such imports fell off and in order to supply the domestic market home production on a commercial scale commenced in 1941 and considerably increased in subsequent years.

When dried peas again became available from abroad in 1946 it was decided, in order to safeguard those firms who had engaged in the production of peas during the war years, to prohibit importation save under licence and such licences were in principle, only granted to the firms engaged in the growing of peas at home, and the licences were quantitatively related to the acreage grown by them. Wholesale and retail prices of dried and canned peas were fixed by Orders from 1943 onwards and no distinction was made between the imported and the home product.

There was since 1935 a standing customs duty of 1/2d. per lb. on imported dried peas. This duty, which was imposed for revenue purposes, did not apply to peas of United Kingdom or Canadian origin.

It was estimated that the consumption of dried peas is approximately 3,000 tons per annum and that during the past few years home growers have been able to meet 50 per cent. of the demand. Production costs were high with the result that the average retail price of dried peas seldom fell below the maximum allowed by the Orders.

The Senator also asked about production over the past number of years. I have not got the information in tons, but perhaps the Senator will be satisfied if I give him figures of acreages. In 1939, the acreage was 403; in 1940, 767; in 1941, 1,443; in 1942, 2,944; in 1943, 3,759; in 1944, 3,377; in 1945, 2,660; in 1946, 3,151; in 1947, 1,881; in 1948, 2,472; in 1949, 1,864; and in 1950, 1,072.

Might I ask the Parliamentary Secretary if he is aware if any research has been carried on for some time in the agricultural colleges regarding the growing of this crop and what the result of the work of these colleges during the years has been?

I am afraid I am not so aware, but I will make inquiries and let the Senator know.

I think it is true that they did carry out a good deal of work in the matter of field types and I should be interested to know what has been the result of their work.

It is a matter more or less for the Minister for Agriculture, but I can inquire and let the Senator know.

Question put and agreed to.
Agreed to take remaining stages to-day.
Bill passed through Committee, received for final consideration and ordered to be returned to the Dáil.
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