I think if the Incorporated Law Society set out wholeheartedly to give effect to the intentions of the Act, there would be no need for the Chief Justice to require anything further than the certificate of the Incorporated Law Society. It may be found that the Incorporated Law Society will exact such a standard of proficiency at their examinations that there will be no need to have any further test than theirs. But the fact that the Incorporated Law Society has reacted to this Bill by suggesting that Irish should be a subject at the Preliminary Examination but not at the other examinations indicates to me that the Council of the Incorporated Law Society does not yet understand what is required to meet the position in the future, and does not appreciate the national policy in regard to the language. The Council of the Incorporated Law Society is, after all, a committee, and a committee in which you have not individual responsibility felt to the same extent as it would be felt in the case of a judge, who would would know that he might be subject to very strong criticism, if he could not be actually called to account for any of his actions. If you left it to the Council of the Incorporated Law Society, in the state of mind in which they are at present, or in which they are likely to be for some little time to come, you would find that fairly easy examinations would be held, and that the Society would be extremely easily satisfied on the question of the Irish language. The old-fashioned members of the Council, if I may say so, would, no doubt, feel very strongly that a man must be properly qualified in the legal subjects before being given a certificate, but I think a great many of them would equally feel that the question of Irish was of no real importance, that it was something that had been foisted upon them, and that they need not trouble too much about it. I think the result would be that if there were not somebody, at any rate in the first years of the test, brought in besides the Incorporated Law Society, there would be a grave danger that the examinations would be, to a large extent, farcical. I believe that if the scheme were in operation for, say, ten years, if the standard were set, and if the number of what I might describe as " old-fashioned " members of the Council were smaller than it is at present, you could leave the matter entirely to the Incorporated Law Society, but I would not like to do that now.