Dáil Éireann Debate, Tuesday - 4 December 2012
60. Deputy John Browne asked the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government the payment rate per local authority of the household charge to date; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [54179/12]
Amharc ar fhreagra71. Deputy Dara Calleary asked the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government the total number of persons who have paid the household charge to date; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [54181/12]
Amharc ar fhreagraI propose to take Questions Nos. 60 and 71 together.
The Local Government (Household Charge) Act 2011 provides the legislative basis for the household charge. Under the Act, an owner of a residential property on the liability date is liable to pay the household charge unless otherwise exempted or entitled to claim a waiver. It is a matter for an owner of a residential property to determine liability and pay the charge. The Local Government Management Agency is administering the household charge system on a shared service basis with all councils.
I understand from the data recently provided that as of 29 November 2012, the number of registrations, including waiver registrations, for the household charge is 1.1 million. The table following details the total number of payments and waivers registered nationally and by local authority area. The figures are also presented as a percentage of the estimated total number of liable properties nationally and locally.
Overall, compliance continues to grow. It ranges from local authority to local authority, from 85% in Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown to 55% in Donegal. It is a matter for each local authority to use the provisions of the legislation, combined with its local knowledge and judgment, to increase compliance. I expect that local authorities will use the available avenues to the fullest to help fund the services which are most important. The legislation empowers local authorities to bring and prosecute summary proceedings for an offence, and local authorities will pursue those who may have a liability and initiate court proceedings where it is considered appropriate.
I urge all liable persons who have not paid the charge to contact their local authority as a matter of urgency. Property owners who are unsure of their liability should also contact their local authority.
|
County/City Council |
Estimated number of liable properties |
Total registered (paid + waivers) |
Registrations as a % of total estimated liable properties |
|
Carlow |
18,257 |
12,097 |
66% |
|
Cavan |
25,611 |
17,204 |
67% |
|
Clare |
45,786 |
33,046 |
72% |
|
Cork City |
41,649 |
28,125 |
68% |
|
Cork County |
143,887 |
93,123 |
65% |
|
Donegal |
65,331 |
36,139 |
55% |
|
Dublin City |
190,685 |
138,359 |
73% |
|
Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown |
74,390 |
63,396 |
85% |
|
Fingal |
90,286 |
62,044 |
69% |
|
Galway City |
27,086 |
20,184 |
75% |
|
Galway County |
62,851 |
41,765 |
67% |
|
Kerry |
58,792 |
43,475 |
74% |
|
Kildare |
68,215 |
45,856 |
67% |
|
Kilkenny |
32,067 |
21,417 |
67% |
|
Laois |
26,185 |
16,475 |
63% |
|
Leitrim |
13,069 |
9,176 |
70% |
|
Limerick City |
20,380 |
14,131 |
69% |
|
Limerick County |
46,473 |
31,741 |
68% |
|
Longford |
12,928 |
8,761 |
68% |
|
Louth |
41,176 |
25,255 |
61% |
|
Mayo |
51,363 |
38,741 |
75% |
|
Meath |
60,652 |
38,278 |
63% |
|
Monaghan |
20,176 |
13,871 |
69% |
|
North Tipperary |
24,839 |
18,077 |
73% |
|
Offaly |
25,224 |
15,175 |
60% |
|
Roscommon |
23,888 |
16,124 |
68% |
|
Sligo |
25,281 |
17,821 |
70% |
|
South Dublin |
81,822 |
52,378 |
64% |
|
South Tipperary |
30,368 |
20,737 |
68% |
|
Waterford City |
15,753 |
10,661 |
68% |
|
Waterford County |
24,777 |
16,474 |
67% |
|
Westmeath |
29,872 |
20,448 |
69% |
|
Wexford |
56,030 |
36,695 |
66% |
|
Wicklow |
45,665 |
32,035 |
70% |
|
National |
1,620,814 |
1,109,284 |
68% |
I thank the Minister of State. Will local authorities be funded by the Minister's Department regarding any further proceedings they have to take to get the household charge from those who have not paid to date? Also, notwithstanding what I said earlier about the household charge fiasco in the past 14 or 15 months, the property tax that is mooted and appears to have been agreed is due to commence in June next year. Is it expected, therefore, that half the household charge will have to be paid in the first six months of the year? Can the Minister of State confirm whether the penalty incurred on the second home tax will be continued with the property tax regime coming into effect in June? Regarding the costs that are to be borne by local authorities, will the Minister fund them or has he established what that cost will be and who is to fund it? Also, regarding the first half of next year, is it the case that all householders will be expected to pay 50% of a household charge based on the fact that the property tax will not be introduced until June of the following year? Can the Minister of State confirm also that second home tax and property tax will apply into the future, as was the case heretofore?
This time tomorrow the Deputy will have the answer to those questions. I cannot say what may or may not be in the budget.
The Minister of State has given out enough information so far, so he may as well go the whole hog.
No. I am trying to answer the Deputy's questions fairly. His questions are about the household charge and not about the property tax. As I said, the property tax, if there is one, will be fully debated tomorrow. The report on the property tax should be published shortly thereafter. There will be total transparency about what is happening and where it is happening. I am not in a position to discuss that now but I would encourage everybody who is liable who has not paid the household charge to pay it. I am sure the Deputy will agree with me that in not paying, they will continue to increase the charges on themselves because if they do not pay at the end of a year, they will owe €140 instead of €100, and at the end of two years, instead of owing €200, they will owe €240 plus the expenses incurred should it happen. I urge everybody to pay it to fund local authority essential services.
I ask the Deputy to be brief as there are four Deputies offering.
I will ask the question again in the hope I might get an answer this time. First, has an exercise been carried out on the cost of proceedings in the event of having to pursue people for these charges? If that has been costed, who is to bear that cost? Will the Minister of State fund local authorities because they do not have the funding themselves? Second, will the household charge be applicable for the first half of next year?
The household charge is in place for this year and if there are changes in the budget for next year, that policy will be announced tomorrow. If anybody is successfully pursued through the courts, the person who loses that case is liable for costs. I presume, therefore, that if a local authority is successful in a prosecution-----
Live horse and get grass.
-----it would be able to recover its costs from the person found to be liable.
Five Deputies are offering and I ask for their co-operation. I call Deputy Mick Wallace followed by Deputy Clare Daly.
The reporting by two gardaí of terminations of fixed charge penalties on a massive scale has been ignored by the Government since last January, and we are being blocked from discussing that in this Chamber. A public inquiry is now needed. Honest gardaí are being undermined. Those gardaí need protection. They went to the Garda confidential recipient for whistleblowers but did not get any satisfaction or protection. Instead, they got a warning when one of them said to one of the gardaí: "I'll tell you something. If Shatter thinks you're screwing him, you're finished." That is a disgrace.
Deputy, please. We are on the household charge. I call Deputy Daly. Is this the same issue?
This is a matter of national interest. Honest gardaí are being victimised because they have uncovered the systematic abuse of motoring charges and terminations to those of some very powerful and influential people in the State, including members of the Judiciary.
Deputy-----
Judge Devins has been named in the newspapers, as have sports figures and other officials, including gardaí.
I ask the Deputy to resume her seat.
We have been denied the opportunity to raise this issue in other ways-----
No, I ask the Deputy to resume her seat.
We are talking about the loss of millions to the State.
This is Question Time and we are on Deputy Barry Cowen's question on the household charge.
We have tried to raise the issue and gardaí are being undermined.
I ask the Deputy to resume her seat. I will call Deputies Stanley, Joan Collins and Luke 'Ming' Flanagan.
Deputy Cowen did not ask the Minister of State how much the figure will be next year. Will people be charged the household charge until 1 July?
That is what I asked.
We have not received an answer to that and I do not know why because it is not a budgetary matter.
How will local authorities budget for this when there is such uncertainty? How will local authorities fill the gaps? I suggest to the Minister of State to merge the post of directors of services and senior executive officers in local authorities. It is a ridiculous situation that local authority sections have senior executive officers and directors of services. There are some 230 of them across the State and the positions could be abolished or merged as well as cutting the pay of county managers. Some county managers receive salaries equal to or greater than that of the President of France. Will the Government consider it next year? The figure must be reduced.
I also want to raise the national issue of corruption in respect of penalty points.
Please, Deputy, no.
It is outrageous. We have been trying to get the issue on the agenda and I submitted it as a topical issue.
We are on a question about the household charge.
There are fixed-term notices and judges are giving down charges-----
The Deputy can talk to the Ceann Comhairle-----
-----to people with penalty points and Mary Devins is named in this. It is outrageous.
I call Deputy Luke 'Ming' Flanagan on the household charge.
I would also like to raise the issue of corruption when it comes to removing penalty points from people's licences.
Deputy, no-----
This country should protect whistleblowers but it has never done so.
This is an orchestrated campaign.
This is one of the reasons we are in the hole we are in.
I ask the Deputy to resume his seat.
We need to protect whistleblowers, not punish them. We are being denied the right to talk about corruption. What is new? Nothing.
This is Question Time.
