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North-South Interconnector

Dáil Éireann Debate, Thursday - 27 April 2023

Thursday, 27 April 2023

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Brendan Smith

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83. Deputy Brendan Smith asked the Minister for the Environment, Climate and Communications in view of the inadequacy of the review of the proposed North-South interconnector carried out in 2018, given that it did not take into account the concerns of householders, farmers and communities in relation to a number of aspects of this proposed project, if he will ensure that the concerns of local communities will be addressed; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [19846/23]

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As the Minister is well aware, there is outright opposition in communities in Monaghan, Cavan and Meath to the proposal to put overground the transmission cables for the proposed North-South interconnector. Over the years the Minister has heard me state that if the project is to go ahead those transmission cables should be put underground. The communities affected and the landowners have outlined very clearly their total opposition to the proposal as it stands. The reports undertaken to date have not been as comprehensive as they should be.

The overhead alternating current, AC, link between the Irish and Northern Irish electricity grids is a critical infrastructure project for the island of Ireland. It will be the backbone of a fit-for-purpose electricity system that will ensure energy security, allow more renewables to be used on the island, reduce the need to burn gas and coal, reduce electricity costs and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

The AC overground backbone line effectively binds the two electricity grids. This will allow the grids to stabilise each other, providing instant support in the event of a power line or plant failing. It will provide system services and the sharing of renewable power. These benefits would otherwise have to be paid for by significant infrastructure, which would involve technical complexities, would cost the consumer more and would result in additional greenhouse gas emissions. Were a direct current, DC, underground cable to be used, these benefits would not accrue. These significant savings, estimated to be €80 million to €90 million per annum, are the main benefit of the project, which will allow shared resources, shared stability and a more robust and cost-effective electricity system. A DC link would not provide these benefits and, therefore, would not realise a truly all-Ireland grid.

The concerns of householders, farmers and communities have been fully considered and addressed at every stage of the development of the North-South interconnector. For example, the interconnector received planning permission in Ireland and Northern Ireland after the extensive public consultation that both jurisdictions require. Both EirGrid and ESB Networks have continued to engage with those living closest to the route of the interconnector since then.

The 2018 review referred to by the Deputy was an update by an international expert commission of its 2012 independent study to examine the technical feasibility and cost of undergrounding the North-South interconnector. The commission’s terms of reference for this update included consultation with the North East Pylon Pressure Campaign, the County Monaghan anti-pylon committee and other bodies deemed necessary. I am satisfied that the concerns of householders, farmers and communities have been and are being taken fully into account by EirGrid and ESB Networks and that the completed project will represent the best possible solution for all concerned.

I thank the Minister for his reply. I vehemently disagree with him that the views of communities, farmers and households have been taken into account in preparation for this project. This has not been the case. As the Minister knows better than I do, since this project was first initiated 16 years ago there have been great advances in technology which have enabled more undergrounding of similar transmission cables. We know there was a proposal to have overground cables in the Meath and Kildare project. Thankfully, from the point of view of the communities and people living in those areas, the project will be going ahead, I understand, with undergrounding of the transmission cables.

The international expert commission report of 2018 to which the Minister referred stated that overhead and underground options are both commercially viable. In various replies to parliamentary questions, it has been stated that the commission report referred to the overhead line being the most appropriate option. I do not see included in those replies to parliamentary questions the exact quotation from the report that both are commercially viable. The Department or EirGrid are not supplying the Minister with the proper information if they continue to say that communities, landowners and people living in the three counties have been properly consulted or listen to.

I absolutely accept Deputy Brendan Smith's interest and his clear commitment to representing his constituency and various views. This has been going on for longer than 16 years. If I recall, this project first came to my attention 20 years ago. We have been analysing the options for 20 years. There are always different commercial options but all of the analysis has been consistent and shows there would be a significant cost to the Irish consumer in going with an alternative approach underground, as Deputy Smith said, with a direct current connection.

More importantly to my mind, even if one were willing to put the cost on the people, it would not deliver us a fit-for-purpose and fit-for-the future electricity system for the people in the Border counties especially. For too long, we have really suffered from the division on this island, North and South, in our energy systems. This has a large cost and consequences. This new interconnector will provide a balancing capability across the Border, an instant response and an ability to make sure that we keep the lights on, keep the factories working and keep our competitiveness as a country. This strategic reason for the infrastructure is why I believe we must proceed.

In every engagement I have with individuals living in our counties, on a person-to-person basis or at public meetings, they all state they fully understand this is critical infrastructure. They say they are not against the project but they are against the project going ahead in the form of having overground transmission cables. In other countries in Europe, similar projects can be put underground. The Minister quite rightly said that for the past 20 years there have been great advances in technology. We have seen projects in our own country been put underground. Why are we different in Monaghan, Cavan and Meath to the rest of the country? We have certain rights also. None of the reports, including the report from 2018, took into account in their terms of reference the effects it would have on tourism, heritage, landowners and householders in the affected areas.

The reports that have been done have not been as comprehensive as they should be. That is the firm view of the communities I am glad to represent in this House over many years and I will continue to represent their views as strongly as I can.

The North-South interconnector project needs to be delivered and it is a matter of how we deliver it. A number of findings in the report are important. First, it says that VSC-HVDC is a viable option. Second, it is very critical of the cost-benefit analysis that has been conducted heretofore, specifically in the area of losses over the full life cycle of this project, not just the immediate upfront costs, and it talks about the need for a techno-economic comparison. We also need to look at this project in the context of a European super-grid, with which the Minister will be very familiar, and the compatibility of HVDC technology with that super-grid.

The Minister is here representing the Government. What does he believe the next steps in this project are? How does ESB Networks or anyone else intend to get on the lands of private property owners who are fundamentally opposed to this project proceeding as intended by the Minister?

The future for our country, our Continent and the wider world will be electrification, with electricity replacing fossil fuels. That is where the new economy and the industrial revolution are taking place, and that is central to our security, both economic and environmental. The characteristics of that new network will involve certain locations where there are high-speed, long-distance international transmission connections, and we are building those first as DC. However, it will also be critical for any country, any community and any region that it is also part of a balancing, alternating current, local grid electricity system that gives the capability to both bring in the various power supplies we have and provide power to households, businesses, farms and communities in a secure, safe and economic manner.

After 20 years of analysis, and after I do not know how many international reports looking at the options, each of which has come to the same conclusion, I believe it is time for us to progress this, in the interests of the community, particularly in the Border region, and of an all-island energy system. The key word here is that this is a “backbone”. It is not an insignificant piece of infrastructure. It is critical if this country is to have a functioning electricity system, one that can be balanced, repaired and restored and that delivers the secure electricity that we need for our future.

Questions Nos. 84 to 90, inclusive, taken with Written Answers.
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