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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 26 Mar 1924

Vol. 6 No. 31

COMMITTEE ON FINANCE. - IRISH RAILWAYS.

I move: "That a supplementary sum not exceeding £510 be granted to defray the charges which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st March, 1924, for payments under the Tramways and Public Companies (Ireland) Act, 1883, and for other purposes connected with Irish Railways."

This supplementary estimate is to provide the funds necessary for a grant to the Londonderry and Lough Swilly Railway Company in respect of three lines, namely, the Letterkenny, Burtonport and Carndonagh Railways, which are worked by them under arrangements made with the Government. The Company laid before the Government recently a statement as to their financial position and showed that these three worked lines have involved them in a continuous heavy loss since the cessation of the Government control arrangements in August, 1921. It was clear that unless the Government came to the Company's assistance it would be necessary to close down these Donegal Railways.

The Government has agreed to advance to the Company in respect of their losses during the year beginning on the 1st March a total sum of £7,240, calculated as one-half of the ascertained net loss for the year 1923, and payable in four quarterly instalments. The present Supplementary Vote provides the amount necessary to pay the first of these quarterly instalments, less a sum of £300 in respect of a cheque which has been returned. It was a payment due by the Company to the Government and need not be included in the Supplementary Estimate.

I would like to ask the Minister what are the details of the arrangements made in connection with the working of these railways. Has the railway taken on these branches without a baronial guarantee, and, if so, why should the Central Fund be debited with an amount like this? In other parts of the country the ratepayers of the locality where these railways are running pay, and I do not see why a differentiation should be made in respect of the Tirconaill railways out of the Central Fund while other parts of the country are bearing their liabilities.

These railways, I think, although I am not sure, were all of them railways of which the Board of Works had to take possession as mortgagee, and they were worked by this Company for the Government. There is no baronial guarantee, and it would be simply a question of whether the railways would close down or whether some sum should be provided that would enable these companies to continue working them. Of course, it would be a hit to this company to have these lines closed down. and it was up to the company to make an effort to keep them going.

Will the Minister explain under what condition the Board of Works came to be the mortgagee of these lines?

I cannot at the moment.

Probably it would be well to postpone this vote until the Minister responsible for this Department could be present. I would also like to know whether the change in the management of the Londonderry and Lough Swilly Railway Company, recently made, has any connection with this sum of money, or whether this sum of money now being advanced is in connection with the change in the management. I understand there has been a change in the chairman and the assistant manager of the Company, and there may be some connection between these two events. If there is, I think the House should be informed of it.

I am not aware there is any connection. I should state that the Burtonport Line was not a mortgagee line; it was actually built by State funds. I am not aware whether there is any such connection as Deputy Johnson suggests. I shall try to get for Deputy Wilson any information he requires as to the ancient history of this matter, but I hardly think it will be necessary before he can make up his mind to vote for the Supplementary Estimate.

The Minister knows that it is necessary to balance the Budget, and he must not be coming along with Votes for ex-gratia grants to the Burtonport Railway up in the North, while in Wicklow we have a railway——

The Deputy cannot go into that.

I suggest to the Minister that he should give Deputy Wilson some information as to when the new Railway Bill will be introduced. That would probably satisfy him as regards the grievances he is labouring under.

Well, I have seen a draft of it.

It deals with baronial guarantee lines, does it not?

Question put and agreed to.
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