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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 12 Mar 1952

Vol. 129 No. 12

Agricultural Workers (Weekly Half-Holidays) Act, 1952—First Stage (Resumed).

The Agricultural Workers (Weekly Half-Holidays) Act, 1951, sets out to provide that an agricultural worker will get a half-holiday in each week; that he will not suffer any financial loss as a result of getting the half-holiday and that if he is willing to remain at work instead of taking the half-holiday, he will receive fair compensation. The Act, however, in attempting to secure the attainment of these objects, creates a number of difficulties. I will not go into detail about all these difficulties but I will mention one of them in particular; it is that the Act prescribes minimum rates of half-holiday remuneration both in respect of and in lieu of a half-holiday but it makes no attempt to reconcile these rates with the existing practice in regard to the payment of wages and overtime. Since the Act came into operation, I know that it has caused a lot of confusion in the minds of both workers and employers as to what exactly their rights and obligations are under it. I propose, therefore, to introduce very soon a new Bill which will, I hope, remove the confusion and the difficulties. I also intend to make the Agricultural Wages Board responsible for the administration of the Act. The present Act. I might mention, confers no power on the board in regard to its enforcement beyond the dubious power of prescribing rates of half-holiday remuneration, dubious because one section of the Act itself sets about doing the same thing in Section 2, sub-section (2).

I might remark that when this Bill was introduced on an earlier occasion there was nobody to take responsibility for it. The Minister who should have taken responsibility ran away from it.

Now, just wait a minute. If I am going to be blamed I am joining in this. All that is permissible is a short statement on the Bill. That poor yokel sat on the Front Bench and he was afraid to either go up or go down.

Mr. Walsh

Deputy Dillon refused to take responsibility with the result that there was nobody to move the Money Resolution. The Bill was consequently inoperative. Of course, the Labour Party went ahead with it. That shows the futility of private members introducing a Bill.

The Minister should not introduce a remark of that kind.

On a point of order. The Minister has spoken here of the futility of private members introducing Bills. Surely it is the privilege of members to introduce Bills. Surely that remark is out of order as well as the content of the Minister's statement, which is not in accordance with Standing Orders dealing with a speech on the First Reading of a Bill.

If the Minister disapproves of Private Deputies introducing Bills, the matter does not arise on this and he can express himself on it in some other way on another occasion. He should confine himself at the moment specifically to a statement on the Bill.

To clarify the point that was raised, I think the Minister's reference was obviously to the futility of a private member introducing a Bill which requires a Money Resolution for its implementation, a Money Resolution which can only be moved by a Minister.

That is exactly what he meant. Now he is right.

Mr. Walsh

I will explain the position. There was no one to move the Money Resolution and consequently the Labour Party confused the farmers and hoodwinked the agricultural workers with their Bill.

This is an outrage. The man does not know what he is talking about.(Interruptions.)

Order. The Minister is travelling outside the scope of the Bill. He should confine himself to a statement as to why he is allowing the Bill to be introduced.

Is the Minister trying to cloak the fact that he and his Party refused to vote for this Bill and sat in their seats like dummies?

That is not a point of order.

Mr. Walsh

I hope in the new Bill to provide that where a worker works a full five and a half days in the week, he will be able to get a half day and that he will also, if he and his employer consent, be able to remain at work on that half day provided he gets extra pay for it.

In introducing the new legislation, I am bearing in mind that the Oireachtas has by the Act of 1951——

The Minister should indicate his attitude towards this Bill and not tell us what is in another Bill.

Mr. Walsh

I have already proposed the Bill in my opening statement the other night.

Only a statement of the Minister's attitude can be allowed on a Bill of this kind at this stage. The Minister cannot tell us what he proposes to do in some other Bill that he is proposing to introduce.

The fact is he proposes to introduce another Bill——

Is the Minister unable to speak for himself? Let the Minister speak.

I can hardly hear him.

He is making a hames of it.

Mr. Walsh

When I reported progress the other evening, I stated I was opposing the Bill introduced by Deputy Dunne. I stated my reasons then. I am restating them now. I am introducing a Bill as soon as possible, inside the next month, in order to deal with this matter. I have just pointed out that the other Bill was inoperative. It was unworkable.

Is there any reason why the Deputy should not be given the courtesy of having his Bill printed for circulation in view of the fact that the Minister realises some amendment of the measure is required?

This is a speech.

I do not wish to make a speech. I am asking a question.

We believe in the Government taking responsibility.

I have allowed a statement to be made by the Deputy introducing the Bill and a statement as to whether the Bill will be allowed to be introduced or not. I cannot allow any other speech.

I do not propose to make a speech but may I ask the Minister a question? Since he does not know what is in the Bill which is now before the House, the Bill moved by Deputy Corish, would he not agree, for the sake of peace and concord here, to permit the Bill to be circulated and then make that speech that he is going to make on the Second Stage, because the Bill which Deputy Corish proposes to introduce will remedy whatever defects are in the Act which is at present running?

Mr. Walsh

In case it may create more defects, I will introduce a Bill myself.

Could not you amend it?

It will never come.

Question put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 37; Níl, 65.

  • Belton, John.
  • Byrne, Alfred.
  • Cawley, Patrick.
  • Corish, Brendan.
  • Cosgrave, Liam.
  • Costello, Declan.
  • Costello, John A.
  • Crotty, Patrick J.
  • Hession, James M.
  • Hickey, James.
  • Hughes, Joseph.
  • Keyes, Michael.
  • Kyne, Thomas A.
  • Leary, Johnny.
  • McAuliffe, Patrick.
  • MacBride, Seán.
  • MacEoin, Seán.
  • McMenamin, Daniel.
  • Morrissey, Daniel.
  • Davin, William.
  • Desmond, Daniel.
  • Dockrell, Henry P.
  • Dockrell, Maurice E.
  • Donnellan, Michael.
  • Doyle, Peadar S.
  • Dunne, Seán.
  • Everett, James.
  • Mulcahy, Richard.
  • Murphy, Michael P.
  • Murphy, William.
  • Norton, William.
  • O'Donnell, Patrick.
  • O'Hara, Thomas.
  • Palmer, Patrick W.
  • Spring, Dan.
  • Sweetman, Gerard.
  • Tully, John.

Níl

  • Aiken, Frank.
  • Allen, Denis.
  • Bartley, Gerald.
  • Beegan, Patrick.
  • Blaney, Neil. T.
  • Boland, Gerald.
  • Brady, Philip A.
  • Brady, Seán.
  • Brennan, Joseph.
  • Brennan, Thomas.
  • Breslin, Cormac.
  • Briscoe, Robert.
  • Buckley, Seán.
  • Burke, Patrick.
  • Butler, Bernard.
  • Carter, Frank.
  • Childers, Erskine.
  • Cogan, Patrick.
  • Colley, Harry.
  • Collins, James J.
  • Corry, Martin J.
  • Crowley, Honor Mary.
  • Crowley, Tadhg.
  • Cunningham, Liam.
  • Davern, Michael J.
  • Derrig, Thomas.
  • de Valera, Eamon.
  • de Valera, Vivion.
  • Duignan, Peader.
  • Fanning, John.
  • ffrench-O'Carroll, Michael.
  • Flanagan, Seán.
  • Flynn, John.
  • Flynn, Stephen.
  • Gilbride, Eugene.
  • Harris, Thomas.
  • Hillery, Patrick J.
  • Hilliard, Michael.
  • Humphreys, Francis.
  • Kennedy, Michael J.
  • Killilea, Mark.
  • Lehane, Patrick D.
  • Lemass, Seán.
  • Little, Patrick J.
  • Lynch, Jack (Cork Borough)
  • McCann, John.
  • MacCarthy, Seán.
  • McEllistrim, Thomas.
  • MacEntee, Seán.
  • McGrath, Patrick.
  • Madden, David J.
  • Maguire, Patrick J.
  • Maher, Peader.
  • Moran, Michael.
  • Moylan, Seán.
  • O Briain, Donnchadh.
  • O'Reilly, Matthew.
  • Ormonde, John.
  • O'Sullivan, Ted.
  • Rice, Bridget M.
  • Ryan, Mary B.
  • Sheridan, Michael.
  • Traynor, Oscar.
  • Walsh, Laurence J.
  • Walsh, Thomas.
Tellers:—Tá: Deputies Mac Fheórais and Dunne; Níl: Deputies Ó Briain and Killilea.
Question declared lost.
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