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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 4 May 1966

Vol. 222 No. 7

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Arrest of Pickets.

21.

Mr. P. Hogan

(South Tipperary), Mr. Creed and Mr. T. O'Donnell asked the Minister for Justice if he will state (1) the number of persons arrested in respect of the picketing by members of the ICMSA of (a) Leinster House and (b) Government Departments; (2) whether any distinction respecting arrest has been made between the picketing of Dáil Éireann and elsewhere; (3) if he will give the Act or statutory authority under which these arrests were made; and (4) whether he will now, in the interests of the community in general, suspend for some period these procedures of arrest.

22.

asked the Minister for Justice the number of farmers arrested under the Offences against the State Act for picketing outside Leinster House and Government Buildings; what the authority was for removing farmers and having them charged for protesting outside Government Buildings at Merrion Square; if he will make a statement on the matter; and if he will take such steps as are necessary to allow such orderly protest to be made without further arrests of citizens who feel they have a legitimate grievance.

23.

asked the Minister for Justice if attention has been drawn to a report that charges under section 28 of the Offences against the State Act had been dropped in recent cases; if this is so; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

With your permission, a Cheann Comhairle, I propose to take Questions Nos. 21, 22, and 23 together.

The number of persons arrested for picketing Leinster House was 176. The number arrested for picketing Government Buildings was four.

As the cases are sub judice, I do not think it appropriate to make any more detailed reference to the legal position than to make the factual statement that, in all cases, notices under section 28 of the Offences against the State Act had been issued before the arrests were made.

Although section 28 refers to meetings or processions in or through a street within half a mile of Leinster House, it is not the practice to interfere with demonstrations that are not directed at Leinster House. Accordingly, while the picket on Government Buildings was within half a mile of Leinster House, the intervention of the Garda Síochána in that particular case was not in accordance with the usual practice and those concerned in that case have already been informed that it is not proposed to continue with the charges against them.

As regards future action, I do not think that there can be any possible room for misunderstanding of the Government's attitude, which is that no organisation or group should be allowed to demonstrate outside Leinster House. The Government regard this as a matter involving the right of Parliament to function freely and therefore as a matter on which there can be no compromise.

(South Tipperary): Has the Minister discretion in the implementation of the Offences against the State Act?

Hear, hear; that is a very intelligent question.

I regard the interpretation of section 28 of the Offences against the State Act as a protection of the rights of Deputies to come into the National Parliament and to carry out the business of the people there. It is in that particular connection that arrests have been made. Where arrests were made outside that, a direction was given that the charge should be dropped.

(South Tipperary): I asked the Minister if he has discretion regarding the implementation of that Act?

Of course I have.

(South Tipperary): Does the Minister think it is in the community interest to continue this kind of shuttle service between Leinster House and the Bridewell, or wherever it is?

The appropriate charges have been made and the law is taking its course.

(South Tipperary): It is of use to the ICMSA, as has now been proved, but it is not in the community interest.

Does the Deputy wish that Deputies of all Parties should not be able to come into the National Parliament to carry on the business of the people there?

(South Tipperary): My wish is that the Government would take action to bring this to an end.

The matter is being dealt with.

(South Tipperary): It is being dealt with now, after these questions have been put down.

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