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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 12 Dec 1973

Vol. 269 No. 11

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Comprehensive and Community Schools.

47.

asked the Minister for Education (a) the number of comprehensive schools in the State (b) where they are situated (c) the number of pupils on the roll in each school (d) the number of teachers on the staff of each and (e) the subjects available at (1) junior level and (2) senior level; and the proposals he has for developing future schools and where they will be situated.

Mr. R. Burke

The information sought by the Deputy is given in the form of a tabular statement which with the permission of the Ceann Comhairle I propose to circulate with the Official Report.

The provision of further comprehensive schools is not envisaged.

Following is the statement:

COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOLS

(a) Number of Schools: 14,

(b) Where situated:

Cootehill, County Cavan.

Carraroe, County Galway.

Shannon Airport, County Clare.

Glenties, County Donegal.

Manorhamilton, County Leitrim.

Dooradoyle, Limerick.

Ballymun Boys', Dublin.

Ballymun Girls', Dublin.

Raphoe, County Donegal.

Newpark, Blackrock, County Dublin.

Mount Temple, Malahide Road, Dublin.

Ashton, Blackrock Road, Cork.

Tarbert, County Kerry.

Boherbue, County Cork.

(c) and (d)

School

Number of Pupils on Rolls

Whole-time Teachers

Part-time Teachers

Cootehill

566

32

2

Carraroe

338

21

Shannon

465

32

2

Glenties

403

27

2

Monorhamilton

459

30

Dooradoyle

630

39

3

Ballymun Boys'

358

22

1

Ballymun Girls'

254

18

3

Raphoe

400

20

10

Newpark

570

28

13

Mount Temple

514

33

3

Ashton

335

18

10

Tarbert

274

16

4

Boherbue

262

18

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(e) Subjects studied at (1) Junior and (2) Senior level in each comprehensive school.

1. Cootchill:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Latin, French, Art, Technical Drawing, Agricultural Science (Hons.), Economics, Business Organisation, Engineering, Workshop Theory and Practice, Building Construction, Biology, Religion.

2. Carraroe:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History and Geography, Civics, French, German, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Latin, French, Commerce, Drawing, Physical Education, Religion.

3. Shannon:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, Spanish, Music, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Religion, Latin, French, Spanish, Music, Art, Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Physics, Mechanics, Home Economics, Accountancy, Economics, Biology, Business Methods, Shorthand, Typing.

4. Glenties:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History and Geography, Civics, Latin, Music, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion, French, Environmental Studies.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Latin, French, Music, Civics, Art, Engineering, Workshop Theory and Practice, Biology, Religion, Technical Drawing, Physics, Agricultural Science, Mechanics, Home Economics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Economics, Shorthand and Typing.

5. Manorhamilton:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, Religion, History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, Music, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Arts and Crafts, Environmental Studies.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Latin, French, Technical Drawing, Agricultural Science, Home Economics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Economics, Engineering, Workshop Theory and Practice, Biology, Religion.

6. Dooradoyle:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, German, Spanish, General Musicianship, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Biology, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Spanish, Music, Art, Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Physics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Religion, Latin, French, German.

7. Ballymun (Boys'):

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Social and Environmental Studies, Latin, French, Drama, Music, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion, Civics.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, French, Music, Art, Chemistry, Religion, Drama, Physical Education, Economics, Biology.

8. Ballymun (Girls'):

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, Commerce, Art, Science, Biology, Speech and Drama, Religion, Social and Environmental Studies, Home Economics.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, French, Music, Art, Chemistry, Shorthand, Typing, Bookkeeping, Business Calculation, Office Practice, Speech and Drama, Religion, Physical Education, Business Organisation, Economics, Biology.

9. Raphoe:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, Latin, French, Art, Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Physics and Chemistry, Home Economics, Physical Education, Economics, Biology, Religion.

10. Newpark:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Religion, Civics, Latin, French, German, General Musicianship, Commerce, Art, Science, Home Economics, Social and Environmental Studies, Woodwork.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, Latin, French, German, Spanish, Art, Chemistry, Physics, Applied Physics, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Biology, Religion, Italian.

11. Mount Temple:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, German, Music, Commerce, Art, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Physical Education, Mechanical Drawing, Environmental Studies, Religion, General Musicianship.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Latin, French, German, Art, Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Physics, Physics and Chemistry, Applied Mathematics, Home Economics, Biology, Religion, Economics, General Musicianship.

12. Ashton:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, German, Music, General and Practical Musicianship, Art, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion, Commerce.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, Latin, French, German Music, General and Practical Musicianship, Art, Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Physics, Home Economics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Economics, Biology, Religion.

13. Tarbert:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Religion, Singing.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, Latin, Singing, Art, Chemistry, Home Economics, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Biology, Religion.

14. Boherbue:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Singing, Religion, Civics, Latin, French.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, Latin, French, Home Economics, Physical Education, Business Organisation, Biology, Religion.

48.

asked the Minister for Education (a) the number of community schools in the State (b) where they are situated (c) the number of pupils on the roll in each (d) the number of teachers on the staff of each and (e) the subjects that are available (1) at junior level and (2) at senior level; and the proposals he has for organising community schools in the future and where they will be situated.

Mr. R. Burke

The information sought by the Deputy at (a), (b), (c), (d) and (e) is given in the form of a tabular statement which, with the permission of the Ceann Comhairle, I propose to circulate with the Official Report together with a list of the centres in which community schools are being built and which are due to open in September 1974, and a list of the centres in which the establishment of community schools is being considered.

My Department proposes in the newly developed areas of the cities to set up community schools or other agreed school structures to provide for the educational needs of these areas. Where there are two or three small schools in need of replacement or major extension my Department's aim is for the development of community schools or of schools in close co-operation in these areas.

Following is the statement:

COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.

(a) Number of Schools: 12.

(b) Where situated:

Blanchardstown, County Dublin.

Carna, County Galway.

Tallaght, County Dublin.

Carndonagh, County Donegal.

Clifden, County Galway.

Dungloe, County Donegal.

Falcarragh, County Donegal.

Galvone, County Limerick.

Gweedore, County Donegal.

Mayfield, County Cork.

Millstreet, County Cork.

Moyne, County Longford.

(c) and (d)

School

Number of pupils on Rolls

Whole-time Teachers

Part-time Teachers

Blanchardstown

400

25

3

Carna

203

14

1

Tallaght

491

31

4

Carndonagh

896

49

3

Clifden

260

14

1

Dungloe

229

15

4

Falcarragh

451

29

3

Galvone

118

11

4

Gweedore

218

14

3

Mayfield

113

9

3

Millstreet

373

24

Moyne

436

28

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(e) Subjects studied at (1) Junior and (2) Senior level in each Community school.

1. Blanchardstown:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Civics, French, Music, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Home Economics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Engineering Workshop, Theory and Practice, Building Construction, Religion.

2. Carna:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Civics, French, Music, Commerce, Art, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, Latin, French, Music, Art, (including Crafts), Physics and Chemistry, Home Economics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Building Construction, Biology, Shorthand, Typewriting, Religious Education.

3. Tallaght:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths, History, Geography, Civics, French, German, General Musicianship, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Typing, Religion,

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths, History, Geography, Latin, French, German, Spanish, Art (including Crafts), Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Physics, Home Economics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Economics, Building Construction, Biology, Shorthand, Typing, Religion.

4. Carndonagh:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, Music, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, Latin, French, Music, Art (including Crafts), Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Physics, Agricultural Science, Applied Maths., Home Economics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Economics, Engineering, Workshop Theory and Practice, Building Construction, Biology, Religion.

5. Clifden:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths, History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French Spanish, Commerce, Science, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths., History, Geography, Latin, French, Home Economics, Accountancy, Economics, Biology, Physical Education, Religion.

6. Dungloe:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths, History and Geography, Civics, French, Music, Commerce, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths, History, Geography, French, Technical Drawing, Home Economics, Business Organisation, Economics, Biology, Shorthand, Typewriting, Religion.

7. Falcarragh:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths, History and Geography, Latin, French, Music, Civics, Commerce, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Latin, French, Music, Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Home Economics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Economics, Engineering Workshop Theory and Practice, Biology, Shorthand, Typing, Religion.

8. Galvone:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History and Geography, Civics, French, Music, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) No Senior Cycle as school was established this year and is not based on existing schools.

9. Gweedore:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, Music, Commerce, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Maths, History, Geography, Latin, French, Music, Physics and Chemistry, Economics, Biology, Religion.

10. Mayfield:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Maths, History and Geography, Civics, Greek, French, General Musicianship, Commerce, Art, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Religion.

(2) No Senior Cycle as school was established this year and is not based on existing schools.

11. Millstreet:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History and Geography, Civics, Latin, French, Spanish, Commerce, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Physical Education, Singing, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Latin, French, Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Physics, Home Economics, Physical Education, Accountancy, Business Organisation, Engineering Work-shop, Theory and Practice, Biology, Singing, Typewriting and Religion.

12. Moyne:

(1) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, Science, Civics, French, Commerce, Mechanical Drawing, Science, Home Economics, Woodwork, Religion.

(2) Gaeilge, English, Mathematics, History, Geography, Latin, French, Technical Drawing, Chemistry, Home Economics, Accountancy, Economics, Building Construction, Biology, Religion.

COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.

Centres in which community schools are being built and which are due to commence operation in September, 1974.

Ballinteer, County Dublin.

Kilbarrack, County Dublin.

Ardee, County Louth.

COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.

Centres currently being considered.

Small Towns/Rural Areas:

Achill, County Mayo.

Athy, County Kildare.

Bailieboro, County Cavan.

Ballyhaunis, County Mayo.

Ballyjamesduff/Virginia, County Cavan.

Banagher, County Offaly.

Belmullet, County Mayo.

Birr, County Offaly:

Carrick-on-Shannon, County Leitrim.

Castlerea, County Roscommon.

Dingle, County Kerry.

Doneraile/Buttevant, County Cork.

Dunshaughlin, County Meath.

Edenderry, County Offaly.

Ferbane, County Offaly.

Hospital, County Limerick.

Kildare, County Kildare

Killorglin, County Kerry.

Kilmallock/Kilfinane, County Limerick.

Lanesboro, County Longford.

Muine Bheag, County Carlow.

North Central Area of County Limerick.

Portarlington, County Laois.

Portumna, County Galway.

Tullow, County Carlow.

Ramsgrange/Shielbeggan, County Wexford.

City areas:

The following are under consideration.

Dublin: Balally, Cabinteely, Edenmore, Holylands, Malahide, The Donahies.

Cork: Blackrock, Churchfield, Passage West/ Carrigaline, Ballincollig, Douglas Road, Togher.

Limerick: Ballynanty, Castleconnell.

Waterford: Lisduggan.

Galway: Mervue/Renmore.

49.

asked the Minister for Education if he will indicate the difference between comprehensive and community schools.

Mr. R. Burke

In answering this question I will deal only with the differences in concept between a community school and a comprehensive school that apply in this country. Comprehensive schools are intended to serve as experimental schools in addition to their ordinary functions and on that account the number will be strictly limited. Otherwise the functions of the two schools are identical: they both serve a total community and are unrestrictive as to entry.

One other difference between a community school and a comprehensive school is that I am represented on the board of management of the latter, whereas the board of management of the community school is drawn entirely from the locality served by the school.

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