asked the Minister for Transport if Irish truck operators face unfair competition in some EEC countries due to (i) a motor vehicle licence fee in respect of the days they spend in continental countries in addition to a full annual licence fee in this country and (ii) fuel oil duty in respect of fuel oil used within continental countries although it may have been purchased in Ireland with Irish duty paid.
Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Truck Licence Fee.
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I am not aware of any instances in which Irish hauliers face unfair competition in EEC countries in the circumstances mentioned by the Deputy. If the Deputy gives me information of particular cases where Irish hauliers are facing unfair competition I will have the matter examined and I will consider what appropriate action may be taken.
Has the Minister information as to whether or not a motor vehicle licence fee is charged to hauliers in respect of days they spend in continental countries? Is the amount of fuel in trucks entering and leaving the countries in question measured so that duty will be charged on the difference? Can the Minister say if these practices exist in any EEC countries and, if so, why he has not investigated the matter?
Regarding motor vehicle licence fees, these may be of two kinds—fees payable at home and those payable while in other EEC member states. With regard to fees payable at home it is understood from the Department of the Environment that under the Finance (Excise Duties) (Vehicles) Act, 1952, the owner of a mechanically propelled vehicle which is liable for road tax and which is used in a public place in the State has a legal obligation to pay the appropriate rate of tax on the vehicle. The Department say there is no provision for rebates of road tax for commercial vehicles in respect of periods spent abroad. Regarding the other question, there is a duty on fuel oil under EEC Directive 68297.
The Minister answered a question I did not ask, I am asking him if a fee is charged to Irish hauliers when in continental countries by the continental countries in respect of the days spent in those countries? If that is the case would the Minister not agree that this constitutes double taxation in that the haulier in question is paying taxation for the entire year to the Irish authority and also paying a fee in respect of parts of the same year to the continental authority? That is double taxation and something that continental carriers operating within the continental country would not have to pay thereby giving them a competitive advantage.
I am sure the Deputy is aware of the bilateral agreements negotiated by Ireland for exemption of Irish vehicles from road tax while in France, Belgium and the Federal Republic of Germany. Reciprocal facilities are granted to carriers from those countries while they are in Ireland. It is understood that no road taxes or duties are levied on Irish vehicles while they are operating in the UK, Denmark, Netherlands or Luxembourg.
Would the Minister not agree that in the case of Italy an Irish haulier would, in view of the Minister's reply, not only have to pay the Irish fee but also a fee for the period which the truck spends in Italy and that that involves double taxation and bears out the allegation contained in the question? Would the Minister confirm that he intends to do something with the Italian authorities to remove this incidence of unfair competition? Would he elaborate on the position as far as fuel oil is concerned?
I accept the point regarding Italy. Negotiations on a bilateral agreement with Italy have now reached an advanced stage.
What about fuel oil?
In Italy?
No, fuel oil generally.
Since Italy has been mentioned I will take that as an example. There is a process by which on entering Italy the Italian customs dip the tank. They take a measurement of oil carried and the tank is allowed to take out the same amount of oil. There are similar arrangements in other countries.
Arising out of the Minister's reply that he is not aware of any great difficulties, has the Minister or his Department received representations from the hauliers association in regard to what they consider unfair restrictions on Irish trucks operating on the Continent and about hijacking and the safety and security of their operations? Is the Minister aware that these representations have been made?
That is a separate question.
Leaving out the area of hijacking, have there been representations about the other matters?
What other matters?
The restrictions which Irish hauliers feel are there.
Did I not answer that question in detail for the past ten minutes? Is the Deputy not listening?
What I heard was that the Minister was unaware that there are any problems.
If there are, the Deputy should submit them.
He admitted there is a problem.
If the Deputy knows of any extraordinary ones he should notify me of them. What are they?
Does the Minister accept now that there are problems?
I am not aware of them. There is no problem.
There is no problem in relation to Italy?
It is not a problem. We are at an advanced stage of negotiation with the Italian authorities with a view to concluding a further bilateral agreement. What Deputy Bruton said and what Deputy O'Keeffe said are two separate questions.
The Minister contradicted himself.
The Deputy is talking about something he knows nothing about.
So long as the problem is solved.
Order.