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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 22 Jan 1986

Vol. 363 No. 1

Adjournment Debate. - Longford County Hospital Closure.

May I express my gratitude for being given the opportunity to raise a matter which is of great concern to the people of Longford? This matter appeared on today's Order Paper as Question No. 39 which, unfortunately, was not reached. On behalf of the people of Longford I want to express the shock they felt when they heard of the premature closure of the Longford County Hospital.

The purpose of raising this subject this evening was to appraise the Minister of the very serious concern which is widespread throughout the community. At a public meeting held last Monday night and attended by approximately 700 people from all walks of life — industry, the chamber of commerce, the ICA, cultural and social organisations, sporting organisations and concerned parents — very serious concern was expressed. The proposed closure of Longford County Hospital at the end of the month poses very serious problems for the community. They see themselves without any type of emergency or casualty service.

I am sure the Minister appreciates that I am not raising this subject to score political points because we all know agreement was reached and confirmed by the Minister and by the Midland Health Board on many occasions that the Longford County Hospital would not close until the new casualty unit, which would provide a 24-hour service, was built and was in operation. But a new situation developed recently with the premature retirement of the surgeon. This was no fault of the Minister or of the county surgeon. I would like to take this opportunity to pay a tribute to Mr. Barrett for the magnificent service he has rendered to that community for the past 18 years. I wish him well and good health in his retirement, but this has raised a very serious problem.

To my knowledge the planning for the casualty unit is in the early stages. Tonight the Minister will have an opportunity to tell us exactly what the position is, to give a guaranteed commitment that this casualty unit will be provided, and also to give us the time scale. People are afraid that if the hospital is allowed to close on 31 January, apart from leaving us without a casualty or emergency service, there is the possibility that at some time in the future the Department or the Midland Health Board might decide not to proceed with the casualty unit. I am giving some of my time to Deputy O'Rourke and she will tell us of a similar incident in Athlone when, despite guarantees and commitments, nothing was delivered.

The Minister must appreciate the problem in Longford. I got a clear mandate from the meeting last Monday to put the facts before the Minister and to ask him to meet a deputation. I have spoken to him about this. I appreciate how busy he is the week before the budget, but he said he will consider meeting them later. He said that until he hears the up-to-date position from the chief executive officer of the Midland Health Board he will not be in a position to comment. I hope that tonight he will be able to give clear answers to my questions.

There are reports in the local newspapers of alternative services being arranged at the St. Joseph's and Mount Carmel complex. If the Minister is pursuing that line. I want him to give clear and unequivocal answers to these questions. Has any agreement been reached with the consultants? Has agreement been reached with the general medical practitioners for their services? There are serious doubts that such agreements have been reached. Perhaps the Minister would clarify these matters.

The people want the Minister to honour the commitment given on many occasions — and repeated by him in Longford town in November 1983 when he opened a mentally handicapped centre — that Longford County Hospital will remain open until the new casualty unit is built. I want him to tell the people of Longford that that commitment will be honoured. I am not asking for extra expenditure because I understand that nobody could have foreseen that this hospital would close in 1986. Consequently the money provided in the Estimates for the running of this hospital should still be there. All we are looking for is what we are entitled to and that is to keep the hospital open and to provide cover by consultants from Mullingar until such time as those services can be transferred to the Mount Carmel Hospital complex. The Minister should approve the appointment of a temporary surgeon or arrange cover by consultants in Mullingar to run this hospital in conjunction with the general medical practitioners. The Minister will appreciate the shock felt by the staff in that hospital and the temporary staff who will be replaced in St. Joseph's Hospital complex if the county hospital closes, because the proposal is to move the permanent staff from the county hospital to St. Joseph's. They will replace temporary staff there. There are people there who have major commitments with regard to mortgages and so on and they will not be able to meet those commitments. People will lose jobs unnecessarily in St. Joseph's Hospital.

All estimates would have been based on the County Longford hospital staying open for the period of 12 months. I want answers to these questions from the Minister tonight. The meeting last Monday night became very emotive. The matter of health in any community can generate emotional and angry scenes. I do not want to see this community rise up in anger. Commitments were given to them which they accepted in good faith. It is within the power of the Minister to allay their fears. We should get on with building the new unit as soon as possible.

At the meeting doubts were expressed about whether we would ever get the new unit and the chairman had difficulty in controlling the meeting and in keeping the temperature down. The people at that meeting said then — and they will repeat this to the Minister when he receives them — that they will be looking for full hospital services in Longford, not just the unit that may or may not be made available. I have no reason to believe we will not get that unit. I have been assured by the health board that it is in the early planning stages. The Minister may correct me but I believe that the plans will now be sent for final drawings and will be ready for tender when the Department examine them. Perhaps the Minister can indicate tonight the length of time involved. It is important that we know this, particularly in view of the emotive atmosphere in Longford with regard to this matter.

In 1932 a site was bought for a county hospital in Longford and money was spent on services. During the years since then people did not really believe that Longford hospital would ever close. When the point comes to close it the people are entitled to get a suitable replacement. I cannot see any reason why the hospital cannot be kept going until the new unit is built. That commitment was given time and time again.

There is another matter the Minister might clarify tonight. There is talk that the post of surgeon which was temporary for 18 years has been made permanent. The question was raised at the meeting last Monday night that if the post has been made permanent why is it not being filled. I do not know the situation. I wish to know from the Minister if he is prepared to approve the appointment so that the services can keep going. Is it the case that Comhairle na nOspidéal have to approve it or is ministerial approval sufficient on its own?

There is also doubt about the legality of the situation. The closure of Longford hospital is bound up in a rationalisation plan of services prepared by the Midland Health Board. Part of that was the provision of the new unit, with the hospital to remain open until the new unit was built. A doubt has been expressed by eminent legal people in Longford that the Midland Health Board have a legal obligation to continue with those services and that of the CEO of the board has no statutory authority to order the closure of Longford hospital at the end of January. If I cannot get a satisfactory solution to the problem in the House tonight, it may be that the statutory legal situation in relation to the CEO's decision to close the hospital will be challegened in the High Court. Perhaps the Minister would give us his views on that matter. It might save people a lot of trouble. The fact that consideration is being given to challenging the matter in the High Court is a reflection of the depth of feeling and the anger now pervading the community. They are prepared to go to any lengths to ensure that the commitments given to them are honoured. They will not accept being left without hospital services.

Longford is a growing industrial town. There are plenty of new industries but every day there is a serious risk with regard to accidents which inevitably occur. Sporting organisations, the GAA, rugby, soccer and hurling clubs have used the hospital, as have the various industrial concerns. Not least, parents have had to take their children to hospital on many occasions with minor injuries.

I have listed all the questions to the Minister and I hope he can respond satisfactorily to them. Emotions and anger are building up in the community. What is needed is clear answers from the Minister that the hospital will remain open until the unit is in place. The Minister must ensure that consultants cover is given so that we may continue with the level of services obtaining until we get what everyone told us we would have, namely, a new casualty unit.

I wish to thank my colleague for giving me some minutes of the time allocated to him. I was at the meeting in Longford on Monday night. It appears to me I am fated to talk on the Adjournment about the lack of hospital facilities in the constituency of Longford-Westmeath. I have spoken on the Adjournment on three occasions about Athlone hospital and once again we are on the long road of broken promises. During the years I have been given firm commitments from the Minister about Athlone hospital but these commitments were waved away as if they meant nothing. I spoke to the people in Longford last Monday and I told them the same thing would happen to them as happened to us in Athlone if they did not become more vocal, strident and aggressive about their point of view. We allowed ourselves to be browbeaten by the Minister. I do not wish to be aggressive. I am only telling the truth. The Minister knows what happened with regard to Athlone. A large industrial town has been left with no hospital/doctor cover — an extraordinary state of affairs. I do not want the same to happen in another large town in my constituency.

The people in Longford were promised they would have a fully staffed 24-hour casualty unit and that existing facilities would remain until that unit was built. It is much more than just the closing of a hospital on 31 January, dangerous, wrong and ill-judged as that decision will be. I am afraid that the promises given with regard to the casualty unit, promises given in great detail, will prove to be nothing. The fine promises that were reiterated in our case before the local elections have come to naught.

If the people in Longford do not fight now their county hospital will be closed, the casualty unit will not be built, economies will become more stringent and the people of the county will find themselves with no surgical or casualty services of any kind. I ask the Minister tonight not to treat Longford as he treated Athlone. I ask him to retain the county surgical facilities until the casualty unit is built and to give a guarantee here tonight that that unit will be built.

I thank the Deputies for raising this matter because it gives me the opportunity of clarifying the position. My colleague the Minister for Defence, has raised this question with me also on a number of occasions. In addition, a few weeks ago I met here with my colleague from Mullingar, Councillor Dollard, who also has expressed concern about this matter. I do not propose to receive a delegation because of having discussed this issue with the public representatives and now also here this evening. I would not foresee any change being made as a result of any such meeting and neither would any new light be likely to be thrown on the subject as a result of another meeting.

The second point is that the hospital will close at the end of the month. That is definite. This is a unique hospital in many ways. It is a small 45 bed hospital carrying out only surgical procedures. The surgeon there, Mr. Barrett, has done an outstanding job in keeping the hospital in operation and in maintaining a surgical service in extremely difficult circumstances. But this is an arrangement that cannot be repeated on his retirement. There are three reasons for this. Any modern surgical service requires a minimum staff of two surgeons, so that one can cover for the other. However, such a staff complement could not be justified in the case of Longford. Appointments of this nature require the approval of Comhairle na nOspidéal and that approval in the circumstances at the hospital would not be forthcoming. That is the reality.

The third reason is that the hospital is in a very poor condition and is not capable of being brought up to modern standards. There is only about 50 per cent bed occupancy rate there. The workload would not justify even providing for the appointment of one surgeon to replace Mr. Barrett. I do not propose to change the decision to close the hospital.

Deputies are correct in saying that it had been decided to close the hospital in the years ahead anyway but the decision of Mr. Barrett to retire earlier than anticipated has brought the decision forward. The agreement on my part was on the recommendation of the health board.

I wish to pay tribute to the chairman of the health board. He has been an outstanding chairman in a very difficult position. Equally, I wish to pay tribute to the CEO of the health board who has been equally outstanding, imaginative and progressive in his approach to the hospital services in the region. Their efforts, together with the efforts of the planning staff in the Department, have led to the bringing to fruition of the long awaited rationalisation of hospital services in the midlands. What we are talking about here is the final step in that process. I assure the Deputies that we will not be going back in any way in regard to the decision to provide a casualty unit at Mount Carmel District Hospital. When that unit is in full operation it will provide a 24-hour general practitioner emergency service. It will enable the consultants from Mullingar to provide outpatient clinics and minor surgical facilities on a day basis at the hospital.

Let us put matters into perspective. Mullingar is only 27 miles away in terms of what we are talking about. The road in question is good. We are talking of a distance similar to the journey from Arklow to Loughlinstown, from Carlow to Kilkenny, from Athy to Naas or from Killarney to Tralee, for example. Therefore we are not talking about anything unusual in the present case.

What are we supposed to do for service in the meantime?

I assure the Deputies that the sketch plans for the casualty unit have been prepared. We will be spending £350,000 on the work involved. Even with the health board expediting their final planning documents the unit would still take the best part of 12 months to build. I should hope that the building would be completed within that period. We have sketch plans from the health board. The work will start this year. Unquestionably it will be completed in 1987.

The staff residence on the Mount Carmel site will be converted to provide a 20-bed welfare home as part of the plan. That is clear-cut in terms of its inclusion in the proposal. There will be a day care centre established on the site also and the final phase of the geriatric hospital, St. Joseph's, is under construction. That will also encompass community care facilities. For that purpose last year we allocated £320,000. When this building is completed it will accommodate, together with the developments I have outlined, all the health services in Longford. This will provide the people with an excellent, streamlined and simplified health care service.

What are the people to do in the meantime?

The changed circumstances have accelerated the process. The major maternity and paediatric extension to Mullingar Hospital is progressing satisfactorily. We are spending £8 million on Mullingar General Hospital in order to provide a full service for the people of Westmeath and Longford. In addition, major improvements in the surgical facilities in Mullingar cost £300,000 during 1984.

We are concerned about the position in the next 12 months when there will be no casualty or emergency service available.

They will be available in Mullingar. I appreciate that some difficult decisions have had to be taken but I am confident that the proposals being put into effect by the health board will provide the people of the area with a health service and with surgical facilities that will be second to none.

What happens in the meantime? We will probably see the Minister in court.

The Dáil adjourned at 9 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 23 January 1986.

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