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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 8 May 1991

Vol. 408 No. 1

Adjournment Debate. - Fingal (Dublin) Community College.

I thank the Chair for affording me the opportunity to raise this important issue with the Minister and I look forward to a favourable response. I regret that I find it necessary to raise this issue once gain. Last week I attended a very hostile public meeting in Swords to discuss the educational requirements in the area and, particularly, the delay in starting the new Fingal Community College. At this stage I should like to compliment the principal and staff of the school who have achieved excellent results with the students under most difficult and trying conditions. What would they have achieved with proper facilities?

I was a member of County Dublin VEC in 1985 when we advertised for and appointed a principal to the new Fingal Community College. School started in September and pupils were accommodated in the old vocational school and today there are 407 students. The school consists of five permanent buildings, one small remedial room, 17 prefabs on the area assigned for a play area in the old school, two cubicles for 250 boys, three cubicles for girls and an outdoor assembly area of 450 square metres. I ask the Minister to try to imagine the problems in the corridors, which are three and a half feet wide, in rainy conditions.

When one thinks of Swords one immediately envisages green fields and open spaces. This rural school is unique. There is no one square metre for recreational purposes on that site. This school is slowly becoming an embarrassment and is seen as a poor relation to other schools with better facilities. It is, indeed, becoming more difficult to sell the good record of the school to parents given the lack of facilities. I fought on the VEC in the late seventies and early eighties to eliminate the stigma attached to VEC schools. Thankfully, this has been removed with the advent of community colleges. It is up to the Minister to ensure that this does not return and provide the necessary finance to build a State school.

We have been informed in recent years that the delay was due to difficulties in securing the adjoining site from the board of management. On 1 May 1990 I was told by the Minister in the House that agreement had been reached with the owners of the property. In view of this why has it taken so long for the schedule of accommodation to be drawn up; the first operation in the planning process in the Department. It shows a lack of commitment by the Government to this school and to Swords.

The people of Swords are amazed at the delay given that shopping complexes and hotels in the area can go through the planning process and commence building within two years. The people of Swords feel — and I tend to agree with them — they have been too quiet on this issue in the past. Other areas that took a more militant attitude got their schools much quicker and I regret this very much.

I ask the Minister this evening to give a commitment that his Department will provide the necessary finance to build that school and ensure that the pupils of Swords, the catchment areas of Donabate, Rolestown and Santry who are depending on that school can look forward to justice and equality, something which is missing. I ask the Minister to give some hope to these people.

I am grateful for the opportunity to clarify the position regarding the proposed Fingal Community College in Swords. If I may, I would like first to give some brief details of the background to the project in order to put the matter in context and illustrate the careful planning that goes into all such building projects.

In 1985 the Department approved the establishment of a new post-primary school in Swords. It was intended that the school which was to be a community college under the auspices of County Dublin VEC should be temporarily accommodated in the old vocational school in Swords pending the acquisition by the VEC of a site for the new building. A site comprising 2.61 acres adjoining the old vocational school was identified in 1987 as being the most suitable location for the new community college. In November 1987, the Department agreed a purchase price with the owners of the site. However, the land was subject to an endowment fund and, because of this, consent for the disposal of the site by the governors had to be obtained from the Commissioners of Charitable Donations and Bequests for Ireland. The Commissioners refused this request in June 1989. The Department appealed the decision via the Chief State Solicitor's Office. This appeal was also turned down in November 1989, and the reason given for the refusal was that the Commissioners considered that the amount the Department had offered to pay was not enough. Following further consultations with the valuation office it was decided to increase the Department's offer and finally in May 1990 the consent of the Commissioners was forthcoming.

As the Deputy well knows, the planning of a school cannot commence until a site has been identified and purchased. At this time also, in common with other major projects, it became necessary before proceeding any further to review the project in the light of declining demographic trends which had become evident thoughout the country. The Deputy will appreciate that such reviews, which are a regular part of the planning process, have become increasingly important in recent years because of changing population trends. It is of course imperative that all building is fully justified by long term projections of pupil numbers. Following the review of the Swords area, it was agreed that 500 pupil places should be provided at Fingal Community College for both the short and long term.

The current position therefore is that the overall schedule of accommodation is now being prepared by the building unit in consultation with the County Dublin VEC taking both existing and new accommodation into account. As soon as this schedule has been agreed, the VEC will appoint a design team who will then commence architectural planning.

I appreciate the frustration of the Deputy because of the continuing delays about this school and I will take on board the legitimate points he made about the condition of the existing building. However, I hope the Deputy will appreciate, with all due respect, there has not been undue delay in proceeding with this project. The delay was due to site acquisition difficulties. I am anxious to see the project proceed to construction as soon as possible. I fully appreciate the difficulties being encountered by the school. The Minister for Justice, Deputy Burke, brought those difficulties to the notice of the Department, as has Deputy Ryan.

(Limerick East): He must have no clout.

I want to assure the Deputy that the Department are co-operating fully with the VEC to ensure that the planning of the scheme will take place in as short a time as possible.

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