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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 10 Mar 1992

Vol. 417 No. 1

Adjournment Debate. - Finance Matters.

I wish to speak very briefly on the proposed transfer of customs officers from their present locations in the Cavan-Monaghan area. The transfer will create great disruption in the family lives of the officers who, long ago, established their roots in my constituency.

A total of 327 persons are affected by the move, 70 staff and their families. Their loss will be keenly felt by the communities; 57 of these families live within a 15 miles radius of Monaghan town. One can imagine the effect on the property market if 57 houses were for sale at the same time. County Monaghan has not figured in the Government's decentralisation plans to date and the Minister now has an opportunity to tackle this. He should decentralise a small section of the Department of Finance — or some other Department — to Monaghan town to absorb these officers so that they and their families can continue to enjoy life as they always have. I look forward to the Minister's response.

We are informed by the Revenue Commissioners that, based on current decisions and assumptions, they estimate that about 604 jobs will be lost in Customs and Excise following the completion of the Internal Market on 1 January 1993. The impact of the Internal Market changes falls unevenly on Customs and Excise locations. Understandably areas with a heavy customs preventive work element will suffer most. The Revenue Commissioners recognise that the Border area is in this category.

The Revenue Commissioners are endeavouring, with the co-operation of all the Civil Service unions, to find work for all the surplus staff in their present locations. As the Minister said in his budget speech, it is essential that the surplus Customs and Excise staff are used to the maximum in the continued drive for better collection and enforcement of taxes and detection of evasion and avoidance. Full co-operation and flexibility will be required from the staff unions to achieve this objective.

The commissioners have put foward specific proposals for the absorption of surplus staff within the Revenue Commissioners through the expansion of some existing functions of the Customs and Excise service, especially the strengthening of the common external frontier, increased control of drugs and other illicit traffic, improved Common Agricultural Policy control and post importation audit work. Included in these proposals is the involvement of Customs and Excise staff in new areas of work which will arise post-1992 and which have the potential to provide substantial employment opportunities. One such area involves the collection of Community intrastat statistics and the VAT information exchange system. The Government have already decided to give the Revenue Commissioners responsibility for this new work which will generate over 100 jobs. The Revenue Commissioners have also made proposals to Government for a major role for Revenue in the administration of a new motor vehicle taxation system and the Government's decision on this matter will be made shortly.

Pending the Government decision on motor vehicle taxation and the completion of the necessary negotiations with the unions concerned, the Revenue Commissioners have not yet decided where to locate the administrative centres for the new work areas in question. I can, however, assure the House and the Deputies who approached me on this matter that the Border area, being one of the areas which has a particularly severe surplus staff problem, will be high on the list of priority locations for new work, or any other option, which will alleviate the problem.

The Revenue Commissioners have put much effort into designing a strategy, the ultimate aim of which is to ensure that, to the greatest extent possible, a career is provided for all Customs and Excise staff in, or close to, their present locations. In keeping the human and domestic factors to the forefront, I hope that through cooperative flexibility on all sides this aim can be achieved.

I thank the Minister for his response. I hope that having further considered this matter over the next six months or so, County Monaghan will figure in any decisions made by the Minister in regard to movement of staff.

My second matter relates to a similar problem in regard to the Ordnance Survey Office field officers. As the Minister is aware, a number of Ordnance Survey field officers from the north-east have to travel to Longford to carry out their work. The Minister is also well aware that this arrangement is not at all suitable for the officers in question. It takes too long to travel to Longford and back in a day.

A number of options are open to these officers. Indeed, some officers have already returned to Dublin. The officers who have remained in the north-east have the option of either living in Longford from Monday to Friday and travelling home at weekends or moving to Longford. Regardless of what option they take, as we can see entire families will be put under severe stress and family life will be seriously disrupted. Moving house can be very awkward. In some cases the officers' wives have permanent jobs in the area in which they now live. Therefore, it would be asking an awful lot of the family to ask them to move to Longford.

Only a small number of officers are involved at this stage. I suggest that a small office, similar to the office which has been opened in Sligo, should be opened in the north-east. The reorganisation of the service will save the Department of Finance a great deal of money. Therefore, it should be possible to find £5,000 to solve this problem. I am certain that tomorrow morning a suitable office could be found in Carrickmacross or Dundalk, whichever town the Department believe is most suitable. The Minister would be doing a wonderful job if he decided to do this. I can guarantee the Minister that space would be found for this office and I hope he takes this option. I understand that the quantity of machinery and equipment required is quite small. The opening of such an office would be a very cheap exercise and would be of wonderful benefit to the officers and their families. I hope the Minister takes my suggestion on board.

I am grateful for the opportunity to outline for this House the current position of the Ordnance Survey Office. One of the commercial realities now faced by the Ordnance Survey Office is that the funds allocated by the State must be expanded in the most cost effective and productive manner; another is that the needs of the market must be supplied and yet another critical one is that consumers of the products supplied by the Ordnance Survey Office must be prepared to pay for that product.

The present position is that the Ordnance Survey Office spend about £8 million a year, including capital investment, but they effectively earn only about £2.5 million a year in revenue from all sources. Therefore, we have a State business supplying a product at an annual loss of some £5.5 million a year to the Irish taxpayer.

Against this background, it was necessary to review the operation of the Ordnance Survey Office and a very careful and detailed review took place in recent years. There were two principal questions to be answered: first, were the Ordnance Survey Office producing the products the market wanted and, second, is production handled in the most economical and cost effective way? The answer to the first question was that one major product required by the tourist and security industry was not being supplied — the 1:50,000 series — and the Ordnance Survey Office were instructed to start producing this.

On the second question, the answer was in the negative. Until recently maps were produced completely by field observation and the results were manually compiled and stored in the Ordnance Survey Office's head office in the Phoenix Park. Over the last number of years, technological progress has allowed for the field results to be translated digitally by computer into map form. The 1:50,000 series, to which I have just referred, is produced by way of extremely expensive and complicated machinery which translates aerial surveys into stored data in the computer, so field work is reduced to a minimum. In addition, the pace of technological progress in the whole area is so rapid now that the whole procedure for producing the other mapping products — the large scale urban and rural maps — will change dramatically. Much of the basic work can be done by the use of imagery, consisting of both aerial photography and of satellite data, for compiling the basic product, with the result that the need to have personnel laboriously observing and measuring data in the field will be virtually eliminated.

Because of this, the management of the Ordnance Survey Office decided to transfer all the field staff back to their established headquarters in Dublin. A problem then arose because some of these officers, despite being required to make themselves available for transfer if and when required, expressed unwillingness to move. At this point I should mention that staff on field work get the benefit of generous field allowances. These allowances are, in part, intended to compensate field officers for the liability to move to different work locations from time to time. Also, staff in receipt of field allowances are not entitled to these allowances or removal expenses on returning to Dublin.

In order to minimise the disruptive effects on staff and on the work of the Ordnance Survey Office, the Minister for Finance agreed to the establishment of six small regional offices to accommodate as many of the field staff as possible. Following recommendations submitted by the management of the Ordnance Survey Office, offices have been sanctioned for Cork, Ennis, Tuam, Kilkenny, Sligo and Longford and the field staff in question have been given the maximum flexibility as to whether to return to their established headquarters in Dublin or to transfer to the new regional offices. Removal expenses for transfer to these new headquarters has also been agreed. Unfortunately, with the best will in the world it is impossible to ensure that every field officer would be able to remain at his present location. I thought that everyone involved would have liked to transfer to Longford as that area has become so important in recent times. The fact is that the nature of the work and organisation of these offices dictate that only six offices can be established; any further offices would simply not be viable.

The Dáil adjourned at 9.05 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 11 March 1992.

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