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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 14 Feb 1995

Vol. 449 No. 1

Adjournment Debate. - Cost to National Schools of Television Licences.

I thank the Chair for giving me this opportunity to raise on the Adjournment a matter that I have been following for the last couple of years.

Primary schools should be exempt from paying television licences where television sets are purchased by the school authorities to show educational videos and to allow school children an opportunity to view educational programmes.Many school management boards are furious because not alone have they to provide the television set from their own financial resources but they also have to pay £70 each year. Many boards of management are extremely reluctant to do so.

Many financial demands are made on parents of primary school children, even taking account of the vast improvement in the capitation grant in the last year or two. Some parents find it almost impossible to pay their contributions for necessary facilities such as playing areas, shelters, books, outings etc. In many instances the straw that breaks the camel's back is the payment of the television licence fee. Parents and teachers are now shouting stop.

An irony is that many Government Departments, including the Departments of Agriculture, Food and Forestry, the Environment, Social Welfare, and the Department of Education itself frequently send educational videos to schools. It does not make sense that small schools should be fined £70 to show such videos.

I understand that some schools in disadvantaged areas are already exempt from such payments. I ask the Minister to extend this exemption to every primary school in the State — that is not to say that every primary school has such an apparatus. However, it is only reasonable and fair, that in the case of schools that have taken the initiative to buy a television, the boards of management should not be responsible for paying the television licence fee. If ever I saw a case for exemption, it is this.

I am grateful for the opportunity to respond to the concerns expressed by the Deputy.

I understand that the Deputy is already aware that the Minister for Arts, Culture and the Gaeltacht has responsibility for the legislation which governs the payment of television licences.

Consequently, the question of a legislative revision in order to fully or partially exempt primary schools from payment of the television licence has been raised by the Department of Education with the Department of Arts, Culture and the Gaeltacht. I am informed that the Department of Arts, Culture and the Gaeltacht has not delivered a conclusive view in relation to the issues raised.

I note that the Deputy has mentioned the use of television sets solely and exclusively for showing educational videos. I am unable to envisage how a system could operate in practice whereby a school might be exempted from the requirement to pay a licence fee on foot of some condition or undertaking that the set would not be used to receive broadcasts.

I should clarify, therefore, that the Department of Arts, Culture and the Gaeltacht has been approached on the basis of a simple derogation for schools, irrespective of the intended usage of the television.

Pending clarification of the position in relation to legislation it has been decided to continue the scheme whereby primary schools designated as disadvantaged have the cost of a television licence refunded to them by the Department. The provision for this scheme is made from the special disadvantaged fund operated by the Department and is confined to schools in that category. In all other cases the capitation grant, paid by the Department and augmented by local contributions, is intended to cover day to day running costs of the schools, such as television and other licensing charges.

The policy thrust of the Department of Education is to ensure adequate funding for the day to day needs of all primary schools through the general capitation grant. To that end considerable improvements to the grant levels have been made in recent years. The basic grants to primary schools have been increased by a cumulative 35 per cent over the last two years and in 1994 significant improvements were made in the grant rates that apply to primary schools catering for children with special needs. Provision has been made for further improvements in the capitation grants, details of which will be announced shortly.

I am sure the Deputy will convey his views in the correct quarter with a view to achieving some success in that area.

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