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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 26 Nov 1997

Vol. 483 No. 4

Adjournment Debate. - Education Policies.

Recent reports outline the grim truth about the number of young people who are almost totally disengaged from our educational system. The Clondalkin study shows that there is chronic absenteeism among 25 per cent of pupils, with most of them missing for more than four months of the year. The same can be said of several other areas throughout the city. A report from the Ballyfermot area indicates general absenteeism of 20 per cent, which suggests that a larger number may be absent for long periods. In recent times we have seen OECD study findings on literacy levels among the adult population. Much attention has been focused on the finding that almost 25 per cent of the population has literacy problems while there has been little attention on the fact that 17 or 18 per cent of those aged 15 to 25 years, the recent products of the school system, experience serious literacy problems. We can no longer hide from the truth that our education system is failing many of our pupils.

Most surprising about today's reports is that this information is not systematically collected in the Department of Education and Science — I am not pointing the finger at the present Minister. It is bizarre that in a country committed to compulsory legal education, where everybody must attend school up to the age of 15 years, there are no routine systems to identify the extent to which children are performing adequately, receiving the necessary support, attending school regularly and achieving literacy standards. That information is not systematically compiled. The Minister does not have access to reports on individual schools to show that problems are being redressed or that the tide is turning.

The Clondalkin report shows the problem is deep-rooted, and I do not pretend the Minister for Education and Science alone can address it. Many of the 25 per cent of children involved come from families with serious problems outside the school system. The contrast between the environment at school and the education system is so divergent that it is difficult for many pupils to concentrate on the curriculum pursued. Behavioural problems arise as a result of frustration, creating great difficulties for teachers in the classroom.

We must take seriously the recommendations of this report. An education and welfare service is needed to identify those at risk not only in Clondalkin but in areas such as Tallaght, Darn-dale and the north and south inner city. This is just one example of a serious problem. We must also expand the Early Start and Breaking the Cycle programmes. It is incredible those two initiatives are taken up by only about 3 per cent of the pupil population. At present 16 per cent of pupils are educationally disadvantaged, and those schemes only scratch the surface. Of the primary education budget, only 2 per cent is devoted to special measures for the educationally disadvantaged, and that is not good enough. There is 61 per cent unemployment among people who leave school without qualifications. The report shows that many of the particularly chronic absentee pupils become involved in drug taking and various types of delinquency and the cost to themselves, their families and the State is enormous.

To assign only 2 per cent of the primary budget to special measures for disadvantaged areas under the Early Start programme and Breaking the Cycle is not acceptable. We must also examine the curriculum to ensure it is practical and one to which people can relate. Many children who leave school with numeracy and literacy problems are well able to evaluate things that matter to them. Many of them are able to read the odds in bookie shops and to compute the meaning of odds without the favourite, which are complex mathematical computations. However, if they are taught in an alien system they will not get results. I support the call for practical goal driven education subjects.

The most important recommendation in the report is the need for specialist school based units. We must set up units in schools to deal with absenteeism and with children who are experiencing difficulties at home. Such units could deal with pupils on a one to one basis and help them get back into the school system. They could also examine activities outside the formal school system. It is obvious from the report that homework, the traditional after-school activity, is inappropriate for most of these children, but plenty of activities have been successfully developed on a pilot basis in other parts of the city which are expanding the capabilities of these children.

We must empower the areas in which the disadvantage occurs. The State spends extraordinary sums of money in areas of deprivation, but the people do not benefit from the results. Agencies must work in co-operation with communities to determine how resources can best be used. That should be our long-term objective. Innovation and new thinking will come from the communities. The traditional approach of the Department of Education and Science managing the activities of schools must change. We must build partnerships at local level. The Minister may be correct not to agree with regional boards, but he cannot avoid the need to develop the power to plan strategically and to allocate resources on a devolved basis so that projects can be selected. The local community should have the power to make those choices.

I hope the Minister sets a number of targets and that in three or four years' time the chronic absenteeism in Clondalkin will be dramatically reduced. That is the way we must tackle disadvantage, but to do that we need resources. Two per cent of the primary budget is not enough to crack the cycle.

I thank Deputy Bruton for raising the issue and for making a worthwhile contribution. I agree with much of what he said in terms of the approaches that are required to deal with early school leaving and absenteeism. I am pleased to have the opportunity to discuss the Clondalkin Partnership's report about school absenteeism in parts of Clondalkin and the recent OECD report on the extent of the adult literacy problem.

I am pleased my Department was able to contribute to the cost of the worthwhile research for the Clondalkin report. The Department is anxious to build up research and data on absenteeism throughout the country. It has collected data on disadvantage and early school leaving under the Breaking the Cycle initiative. It is not fair to say the Department does not have a comprehensive data base on this matter. Comprehensive data on students and their backgrounds were collected from schools under the old disadvantaged scheme.

It is a well kept secret.

Much of the information is confidential in that it relates to individual students. Schools do not want negative publicity. The pupils and their parents are entitled to some confidentiality. It is well known that schools submitted data to the Department on why they believed their school should have disadvantaged status and designation under the designated disadvantaged scheme. Under the Breaking the Cycle initiative data were submitted to St. Patrick's College. The Department is anxious to contribute to the research under the partnership scheme. I accept the need to continue to collect data that can inform policy decisions.

The report also states that the majority of children in the Clondalkin area attend school regularly and that the school system "gets most things right most of the time". The report is useful in that it details the views of the various parties involved, namely, the pupils, school personnel, parents and youth and community workers. Many of the issues examined in the study are already being addressed in the range of special preventative and support schemes promoted by the Department of Education and Science, at primary and post primary level. At primary level, these include intervention measures such as pre-school services, remedial education, the home-school community liaison service, the teacher counsellor scheme, youth encounter projects and the disadvantaged areas scheme. A number of issues must be addressed at primary level. An evaluation is being carried out on the Early Start programme and the National Forum on Early Childhood Education will be held in January and February. Projects such as Early Start demand huge resources. Yet other resources, such as community pre-school playgroups, were by-passed to a large extent.

I got the figures from the Minister today. There are not enough resources.

I am talking about pre-school. Why are there only 40 schools? I am merely making the point that if I were to increase the number to 100, there would not be enough teachers to do anything else. There are a number of early education projects that must be brought into the framework and given equal treatment.

It is a question of priority.

Many of the groups involved are in disadvantaged areas. The Early Start programme has been successful, but other projects in the early education field also need support. That is why we intend to develop a comprehensive early education policy and framework. We will try to utilise all the resources at our disposal in the community and in the Department to provide a properly focused early education system, which has a key role to play in terms of eliminating early school leaving, absenteeism and disadvantage.

At post-primary level, measures include curricular reforms such as the junior certificate elementary programmes, alternative leaving certificate programmes, training through the provision of Youthreach for unqualified early school leavers and the provision of additional educational services to second level schools to cater for the needs of disadvantaged pupils such as the allocation of disadvantaged, remedial, guidance, home-school links and resource posts.

I recently put in place additional measures to continue to address the need for urgent action, including a new initiative over the next two years, the details of which will be announced shortly, focused on structured pilot projects in urban and rural disadvantaged areas for the development of an integrated area based co-ordination of services to cater for young people aged 8 to 15 who are at risk of leaving school early. I agree with the Deputy that we need to develop that in a partnership context in local areas.

I recently announced my intention of setting up a national forum on Early Childhood Education.

In July I announced a major expansion — up to 1,200 addition places — in Youthreach programmes which has been very successful for many young people.

New initiatives have been agreed for implementation in 1998 and 1999. These include the provision of £1 million for the strengthening of counselling, guidance and psychological services for participants on the Youthreach and traveller training programmes. Early next year I will publish new legislation which will replace the School Attendance Act, 1926, and update arrangements for the school attendance service. All the above existing schemes and new initiatives have a particular relevance to children and young people from disadvantaged urban areas.

Adult illiteracy is greater than some people realised but we knew the OECD report was coming. The situation in Ireland provides an unfavourable comparison with the position in other countries. I am anxious to see the funding for adult literacy programmes increased. I have already allocated an additional £250,000 for the adult education service, to be spent by vocational education committees on literacy and basic education for adults in 1997. I am committed to improving the literacy services within a proper policy framework for all aspects of adult education, in particular, for those who left the formal system without qualifications. It will be designed to stimulate an extensive debate on the advancement and development of adult education.

Following the publication of a Green Paper, I will consult widely with all interested parties and the outcome of these consultations will form a White Paper and, in due course, legislation to put the entire adult education area on a statutory footing.

Arising from the national literacy survey, I am currently setting up an expert group on learning difficulties, which will commission a study of cases of learning difficulties encountered by adults who have participated in adult literacy courses. I hope this study will lead to proposals on how primary school performance can be assessed so as to allow literacy problems to be remedied within mainstream education rather than after years of silent suffering.

Since my appointment, a number of significant initiatives on the issues of early school leaving and adult literacy have been implemented or will be implemented over the coming months. The Government is committed to comprehensively addressing these issues and I am confident we will do so.

The Dáil adjourned at 11.15 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 27 November 1997.

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