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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 20 Oct 1998

Vol. 495 No. 4

Adjournment Debate. - Grant Payments.

This is a very important issue. Women were crying in my clinic yesterday because they did not know if they would receive payments for Christmas. Will the position be like last year, when payments were not made until March or April? A few weeks ago the Minister announced that he would pay the headage and premium payments early. People were waiting for the cheques, but there was no sign of those cheques and no word from the Department. Those people contacted their public representatives or the area aid unit of the Department of Agriculture and Food where an answering machine message says: "We will be contacting you."

On 26 May 1998 the Minister announced a reorganisation of the area aid unit. It was to be divided into five sections, with Donegal, Mayo and Sligo forming one section. We were told that there would be 11 telephone lines into that office, but today if one calls it there is an answering machine. Where have all the staff gone? Where has the Minister gone? He is missing, as he has been for the past few weeks. Farmers are not being told that there is a problem with their area aid. I ask the Minister of State to fly to Brussels with the Minister and the other Minister of State and get a derogation in order that all area aid funding can be paid. If there is a problem, that can be dealt with next year when the Department of Agriculture and Food gets its act together. I do not blame the Department's staff. I am critical of them at times, but I cannot criticise them now. They are doing their best and can do no more. There is not enough staff and it is the Minister's responsibility to get the staff into the section to deal with this matter.

This has been the worst year for agriculture in 30 years. Since the present Government took office 18 months ago agriculture has gone down the drain, particularly the beef, sheep and pig sectors. A fortnight ago it was announced that headage and premium payments were to be made, and now problems have occurred with area aid for people who never had such problems before. People who were paid last year and the year before cannot now get a telephone line into the Department; they get an answering machine. Is that progress in 1998? No, it is a step backwards. Farmers and their wives come to see me and they are upset by pressure from the banks, which give them an umbrella on a fine day and take it back on the wet day. I am glad there is some pressure on the banks now and the boot is on the other foot, as farmers and their families are under tremendous pressure.

There was an announcement last week that beef prices would be up this week, but what has happened? They have gone down. I am told the Minister was on television this evening but nothing is happening on the ground even though prices are disastrous. The Minister must put extra staff in the area aid unit and, if necessary, pay them overtime so that farmers will know what is happening and will get payments. Even my Dublin colleagues, some of whom may be anti-farmer, would say that fair is fair and that the farmers have a problem. They would not mind if farmers are paid. The Minister of State has lost control, he reminds me of Glenn Hoddle. He is under pressure, as is the Minister and the other Minister of State. I know what I would like to do, but I am not the Taoiseach and do not wish to be disrespectful. I will give the Minister of State one more chance, though he does not deserve it. The Department of Agriculture and Food has to get its act together and pay these hard pressed farmers. Enough is enough. The farmers are not looking forward to Christmas.

It is disgraceful that a parliamentary question is not answered for a Member, no matter what that question is. I ask the Chair, as our representative, to ensure that an answer such as the one I was given — that the question could not be answered because of the problems in Agriculture House — is not given again. It is my right as a Member to have my questions answered. I want no more such replies. If I inquire about a problem I want responses.

For the information of the Deputy, the Chair has no responsibility for the content of the replies to parliamentary questions.

I thank the Deputy for raising this issue. For my part, I am under no pressure; I was never so relaxed.

That is the problem.

If there was a prize for sensationalism and exaggeration the Deputy would take the first prize in Mayo.

Look after the farmers. The Minister of State's scheme is a disgrace.

The Minister of State without interruption.

We have done much better than you lot.

The Minister of State might not invite interruption if he addressed his remarks through the Chair.

I am happy to give Deputies an update on progress in the processing of area aid applications in my Department. As Members will be aware, from its introduction in 1996, the land parcel identification system, known as LPIS, aspect of the area aid processing arrangements was both complex and difficult to implement. Consequently, the Department was forced to seek from the European Commission derogations from its provisions in 1996 and again in 1997. It was made quite clear by the Commission that a similar derogation would not be available for 1998 or subsequent years. In the circumstances it was necessary to undertake a major reorganisation of the area aid unit, which was completed last April. It involved a new management structure, including the reorganisation of the unit into five sections, each with responsibility for a specified group of counties.

The first task of the reorganised unit was to eliminate a 19,700 case backlog from the 135,000 1997 applications. This task had to be completed quickly and it was not possible, therefore, at that time for the unit to continue to devote almost its entire staff resources to taking thousands of telephone calls daily from the public. Consequently it was unable to receive telephone calls or personal callers in Hume House.

They will not even answer the Minister.

The achievement of this task involved communicating with and enabling payments to be made to the farmers affected within a month. The unit then commenced the processing of 1998 area aid applications. The intention was to be in a position to enable payments to be made in all eligible cases in line with commitments set out in the Charter of Rights for Farmers.

The key dates are: headage payments to commence in September and be completed in all eligible cases by 31 October; special beef premium/suckler cow premium advance payments of 60 per cent to commence on 1 November with all eligible applicants to be paid by 31 December; arable aid to commence on 16 October and be completed in all eligible cases by 31 October; and ewe premium scheme payments of each instalment to commence within seven days of formal EU adoption and be completed within one month. Up to last Thursday, £0.5 billion was paid out in those schemes to Irish farmers, which should be on the record. The Opposition should know that.

What about those getting none?

The Minister of State without interruption.

Due to the difficult circumstances for farmers arising from poor weather conditions and the fall in beef cattle prices it was decided to bring forward the cattle headage payments date by three weeks and to get Commission approval for earlier payment on 16 October of special beef and suckler cow premia at a higher rate of 80 per cent.

These necessary actions greatly reduced the processing time available to the area aid unit to complete its task. In fact, the early payment of cattle headage commenced while the processing of a sizeable number was ongoing. As a result, the unit was unable to finalise the processing as it was inundated with phone calls from the farmers concerned.

I am pleased to inform the House that this short disruption in service has enabled my Department to make significant levels of payments to a great number of farmers. As the Deputy will be aware, the normal arrangements for comprehensive replies to parliamentary questions has been resolved.

My Department has placed considerable emphasis on customer services and has made significant improvements to that aspect of its functions. However, it has to be understood that a large volume of payments are concentrated into a relatively short period. Therefore, the primary emphasis in our customer plan has to be on getting payments out quickly, and I believe we will be vindicated in this approach.

We have a 98 per cent success rate in the payment of those premium schemes. That high success rate is greatly admired by the European Union.

I do not believe that.

I cannot accept the nonsense trotted out day after day in this House by Deputy Ring.

The Minister of State has lost control.

The Minister of State is annoyed by what the Deputy is saying because it is true.

Resign.

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