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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Tuesday, 30 May 2000

Vol. 520 No. 1

Adjournment Debate. - Grant Payments.

It is sad that I have to raise this case in the Dáil. With no disrespect to the Minister who is present, there are three Ministers in Agriculture House and I am disappointed not one of them is here to deal with this problem.

The family concerned applied for 10.35 hectares on their 1999 area aid application. The Department stated there were only 9.16 hectares when it processed the application, a difference of 1.19 hectares. That means a penalty of 2.38 hectares resulting in payment on 6.78 hectares only.

This matter has been going on for 12 months. The family has submitted copy maps and title deeds to prove their entitlement to the land. They even called personally to the area aid unit last year to resolve the matter. The wife telephoned the local number on several occasions and has dealt with five different people in the area aid unit. These people are very frustrated. The wife came into my office on two occasions last month and was very upset because she cannot put up with the problem for much longer. This problem was resolved last year but it has arisen again this year. The other problem is that these people are not told why their payments have not arrived. They must then find out why they have not been paid, which cannot be resolved over the telephone. It does not matter that the local number is low cost because if anyone rings the area aid unit, they are put on hold for up to an hour. This is not fair to the public.

When documents are submitted to correct errors, it can take several weeks for them to be dealt with. In 1998, area aid officials travelled around the country to resolve commonage problems yet the same problems resurfaced in 1999. Applicants are paying back interest and losing money because of high telephone bills due to the Department's inefficiency. What does a farmer have to do to clear a problem on his application? They cannot telephone because they are put on hold. This family went to the unit in person and the problem was still not resolved.

It was no wonder that on page 28 of the Ombudsman's report last week, the Department of Agriculture, Food and Rural Development was severely criticised because of the way it deals with complaints and the public. There was a major complaint about the area aid unit. It is not good enough. The Department should immediately establish complaints boards in each county so people do not have to keep telephoning and writing.

The Minister, Deputy Walsh, yesterday said he supported anti-poverty initiatives. This family has been caused great hardship by the Department which has made them wait for their payment. They have been doing their best. They went to Dublin to try to resolve their problem, spoke to five different officials and a year later their problem still has not been resolved. I do not want to hear the Minister of State telling me the payments made last year. We have to deal with the problems, not the payments made. I did not want to take up the time of this House tonight but it is wrong that a family must suffer and wait without a structure in place to deal with their problem.

I am disappointed the Minister is not here but I am not surprised – the Three Wise Men came from the east and we have three disasters from the south dealing with agriculture. If any Minister was doing his job, he would not allow what has been going on in the area aid unit for the past few years to continue. I hope the Minister of State will have a satisfactory response in relation to this case. This family is suffering – they have debts and loans to repay and they have to feed their children. They are not asking for anything from the State – all they are asking for are the agriculture payments due to them.

I apologise for the absence of the Minister for Agriculture, Food and Rural Development but I hope I will be an adequate and worthy replacement.

No better man. I have no fault with the Minister of State.

I assure the Deputy I understand the area aid system very well. The person named submitted an area aid application in respect of 10.35 hectares of land in 1999. However, part of the parcel which she claimed overlapped with land claimed by another applicant. The other applicant successfully claimed entitlement to the overlapped area. Consequently, the area for her land was reduced on the Department's electronic database to 9.16 hectares. In the meantime, the herd owner has continued to maintain that the boundaries to her plot which were entered on the Department's electronic database were not entered correctly and she submitted the most current schedules, maps and folios available to her with her 2000 area aid application last month. At the same time she increased the area on which she was claiming area aid for 2000 to 11.42 hectares.

While the schedules and folios submitted with the area aid application for 2000 would support a claim for 11.42 hectares, the most recent map which she has submitted only supports an area of 9.9 hectares when entered on the Department's database. It may be that the map that she has submitted does not outline all the land available to her. The area aid unit will make contact with the person named within the next few days and will send her the most up-to-date orthophotographic map outlining her parcel. If she feels that the map does not adequately reflect all of her holding, she should amend the map if appropriate and return it to the area aid unit as soon as possible so it can be entered on the Department's electronic database. The Department is anxious to clarify the position and to resolve any remaining difficulties in this case without further delay.

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