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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 25 Oct 2000

Vol. 524 No. 6

Priority Questions. - Organic Farming.

Willie Penrose

Ceist:

89 Mr. Penrose asked the Minister for Agriculture, Food and Rural Development if he has satisfied himself that there has been full consultation with representatives of organic farmers in relation to the expansion of organic farming and the proposed changes to the certification system; if he will postpone his own plans and consider the establishment of an organic development committee to examine and recommend alterations to the current certification system; if he will alter the certification function of agencies such as the IOFGA and Organic Trust; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23394/00]

EU Regulation 1804/1999, which governs the organic livestock sector, came into effect on 24 August 2000. This Regulation supplemented regulation 2092/91 which had already governed the organic crop sector since 1992. As the competent authority, my Department has had to put measures in place to give effect to regulation 1804/1999. In doing so, my Department had regard to the recommendation in the AgriFood 2010 report that a credible regulatory system be put in place for the organic sector and that the existing confusion between competing inspection bodies be ended. In response to that recommendation, I undertook to streamline the inspection arrangements. My objective is to ensure that all organic farmers and processors have ready access to the most efficient, transparent and consistent arrangements for inspection and certification, and to encourage new entrants to the sector.

To that end, my Department has put proposals to the three bodies which had been approved to inspect organic crop produce under regulation 2091/92 – Demeter Standards Limited, Irish Organic Farmers and Growers Association and Organic Trust – for a unified inspection and certification system which will achieve this objective while allowing the three bodies to continue to operate their own arrangements, where their own members are concerned, as heretofore. My Department has since had a number of meetings and other contacts with the three bodies to clarify these proposals. Furthermore, at their request, my Department has agreed to assist with funding to engage a facilitator to help the three bodies in their negotiations with one another.

A considerable amount of time and effort has been expended to date in endeavouring to assist the three bodies to arrive at a resolution of issues associated with the establishment of a unified inspection and certification system. I understand the three bodies are still considering the Department's proposals and I am hopeful of an early and positive response.

As the new regulation 1804 has already come into effect, final decisions on the practical aspects of its application must be taken as a matter of urgency. Pending the outcome of this process, the approval which the three organic farming bodies were given in 1993 to carry out the inspection function will remain in effect.

Additional information

While my Department has had numerous and lengthy discussions with the three organic farming bodies both on the inspection and certification arrangements for organic farming and also on the standards to apply to the organic livestock sector, a number of groups of organic producers have also made approaches to my Department independently of the three bodies to offer their own comments and recommendations.

The AgriFood 2010 committee also recommended the establishment of an organic development committee and I accepted that recommendation. I am seeking to ensure that the committee includes representatives of the widest interests in the organic sector including those involved in production, marketing, distribution and retailing, as well as the areas of research, training, advice and regulation. The remit of the committee is to recommend a coherent development strategy to achieve expansion in production, processing and marketing of Irish organic produce and to secure an increased share of the growing national and export markets, and to consider the broad actions necessary for the most advantageous long-term future development of the Irish organic sector while protecting its integrity. I envisage that the organic development committee will convene for the first time within the next few weeks.

My Labour Party colleagues and I agree it was a bad decision to lower standards. It is not good enough that lower standards apply to the production of organic produce. What consultations were held between those representing the interests of the organic industry in Ireland and the Department? Who was represented at such discussions? Has the Department agreed recently to revise some of its proposals to lower organic food standards? Why does it refuse to accept current standards and insist on taking over the administration of organic standards? What level of expertise and experience has it in administering organic standards?

The organic sector operates three different standards at present. This follows ten years of discussion to get European agreement on what should be an organic standard. We asked the three bodies concerned to come forward with a unified response. We are prepared to pay a facilitator to help them to do so but we have not had a reaction from them. To date it has been impossible for them to meet the facilitator. I hope they will do so on 1 November.

They have produced common standards.

There is division among them already but we are hoping a meeting will be held with the facilitator on 1 November. These are the standards agreed by the EU and they will apply to the importation of organic food from other countries that have accepted them. Less than 1% of farming here is organic and this provides an opportunity for more farmers to commence organic farming. In Austria there were 2,000 organic farmers in 1992 and there are now 20,000. It affords an opportunity to have one Irish organic standard.

The Minister of State said that the changes in regard to organic farming were based on the findings of the AgriFood 2010 committee. How many members of that committee have expertise in organic food production? Does the regulation not permit us to set our own standards? Rather than lowering standards to a common EU one, can we not be individualistic and set our own? Britain will do so and we will lose market share there. Is that not the import of this? We are dragging standards down instead of raising them. Will the Minister of State postpone or withdraw the proposed changes to the certification system until the facilitator has been put in place and negotiations have concluded?

The time for this question has expired. The Minister of State may answer briefly.

It is in all our interests that the three bodies come together. We would like them to be the inspection body for it. While they can inspect to the lower level – what the Deputy assumes is the European level – they have a glorious opportunity to promote the higher level under one Irish organic standard not three standards. Less than 6% of people recognise any Irish organic logo at present. I know a number of bodies have been very co-operative in this area but there are difficulties. I hope common sense will prevail on 1 November. We have already accepted changes in regard to animals being born on a farm. Poultry is an area where we must be careful because other people can import allegedly organic eggs.

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