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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Thursday, 17 May 2001

Vol. 536 No. 4

Ceisteanna – Questions. Priority Questions. - Bogus Non-Resident Accounts.

Derek McDowell

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2 Mr. McDowell asked the Minister for Finance if, in regard to the arrangements for payment of back taxes by bogus non-resident account holders, he will indicate if the Revenue Commissioners consulted with him prior to the announcement; if so, if his agreement was sought and given for these arrangements; the basis in which the Revenue Commissioners have made this offer; if persons who availed of the 1993 amnesty will be entitled to avail of these arrangements; if he regards these arrangements as an amnesty for tax offenders; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [14297/01]

As the House is aware, the Revenue Commissioners announced a statement of practice on 2 May 2001 on underlying tax on funds deposited in bogus non-resident accounts. Under the terms of the statement, Revenue indicated that they are setting a deadline of 15 November 2001 for bogus non-resident account holders to make a voluntary disclosure and pay the tax along with interest and penalties.

I have answered a number of parliamentary questions in the past six month or so confirming to the House that Revenue was preparing guidelines on the issue. In this regard, I was aware that Revenue was pursuing its deliberations on the matter. The chairman of the Revenue Commissioners informed me of the course of action that they had decided on and advised me before the recent announcement that they would be issuing a statement of practice on the underlying tax on funds deposited in bogus non-resident accounts. My approval for this course of action was not required as this falls within the ambit of responsibility of the Revenue Commissioners.

The Revenue Commissioners are charged under tax law with the assessment and collection of taxes and levies imposed by the State. They are also entrusted by law with the duty of manag ing the process in an efficient manner to secure the moneys for the State. This involves the making of judgments on an ongoing basis as to the best way to carry out their functions to discharge their responsibilities.

Those disclosing voluntarily will have to pay full tax owed. They will also have to pay interest and penalties up to 100% in order that no more than twice the tax due will be paid. The arrangement in the statement of practice falls within Revenue's care and management powers principally under section 849 of the Taxes Consolidation Act, 1997, which allow it to deploy its resources to best effect in collecting taxes.

I understand from the Revenue Commissioners that those who availed of the Waivers of Certain Tax, Interest and Penalties Act, 1993, may also avail of the arrangements under the statement of practice. This does not apply to cases already under inquiry by Revenue on 2 May 2001 or coming within the scope of the Ansbacher investigations, the Flood tribunal or the Moriarty tribunal. Persons who did not properly avail of the 1993 Act will pay much higher amounts now if they come within the scope of the statement of practice.

It has been clear for some time that the necessary job of pursuing the underlying tax due on income held in bogus non-resident accounts would be a mammoth task. There could be between 25,000 and 50,000 such account holders with arrears. To pursue each and every one of these solely on a case working basis would absorb considerable time and resources which would be drawn away from the ongoing work of collecting more than £23 billion in current taxes in 2001 alone.

Additional InformationThe proposed approach is the most practical and effective way of dealing with the task, which is unprecedented in terms of scale. The sub-committee of the Committee of Public Accounts on DIRT recognised the practicalities of the situation and recommended in its final report of 30 March 2001 that the Revenue Commissioners “give consideration to dealing with the assessment and collection of the underlying tax in a pragmatic and effective manner while safeguarding the overall tax revenue of the State.”

This is sensible advice from sensible people which has been acted upon.

Does the Minister agree that making special arrangements in any circumstances for people who have systematically evaded tax sends out the wrong signals to those who are tax compliant? I agree with him that his approval legally and technically was not needed for the statement of practice, but nonetheless does he accept that he was informed? What view was proffered by him or on his behalf by his Department to the Revenue Commissioners before the statement of practice was announced on 2 May?

My approval was not sought. I was informed by the chairman of the Revenue Commissioners of the statement of practice. I subsequently informed the Government, which noted what I told it. That was the procedure. I asked the chairman of the Revenue Commissioners whether it had the legal power to do this and I was told that it had received legal advice before issuing the statement of practice.

In the debate that has ensued, the members of the sub-committee of the Committee of Public Accounts, chaired by Deputy Jim Mitchell, recognised the practicality of this and recommended in its final report of 30 March that the Revenue Commissioners should give consideration to dealing with the assessment and collection of the underlying tax in a pragmatic and effective manner while safeguarding the overall tax revenue of the State. This is sensible advice from sensible people, which has been acted upon. Those members of the sub-committee who were asked to comment thought that the Revenue Commissioners were acting in a very pragmatic and sensible manner.

I take the Minister's answer to mean that he approves of the statement of practice regardless of whether his approval was necessary. Section 9 of the Act relating to the 1993 amnesty provides for the creation of an offence in circumstances where people did not use the amnesty, where people used the amnesty but did not make full disclosure or where they used it but made false disclosure. How does the most recent statement of practice relate to people who, almost by definition, must have misused or not used the previous amnesty?

My approval was not sought by the chairman of the Revenue Commissioners. I just noted what he had to tell me and that was the end of the matter. In my reply I said that I understand from the Revenue Commissioners that those who availed of the Waivers of Certain Tax, Interest and Penalties Act, 1993, may also avail of the arrangements under the statement of practice. This does not apply to cases already under inquiry by Revenue on 2 May 2001 or coming within the scope of the Ansbacher investigations, the Flood tribunal or the Moriarty tribunal. Persons who did not properly avail of the 1993 Act will of course pay much higher amounts now if they come within the scope of the statement of practice.

People who are guilty of an offence in not having availed of the amnesty are now being given a second or arguably a third chance.

This question was put to the chairman of the Revenue Commissioners at his press briefing on 2 May. In my view, this is in no way related to the amnesties of 1988 or 1993. I refer the Deputy to the statement by his col league, Deputy Rabbitte, who was on the committee, after the chairman of the Revenue Commissioners announced the statement of practice.

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