Order of Business (Resumed)

Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh wishes to raise a point of order.

Ba mhaith liom iarradh ar an gCeannaire an ráiteas a rinne sé maidir leis An Bille Gaeltachta a tharraingt siar mar sílim go bhfuil sé maslach do phobal na Gaeilge agus na Gaeltachta an beag is fiú atá sé ag déanamh faoin díospóireacht tábhachtach atá ar siúl faoi láthair. Tá sé maslach go bhfuil an Rialtas ag cur baic ar dhíospóireacht daonlathach, oscailte agus cuimsitheach maidir leis na cúinsí seo ó thaobh na Gaeltachtaí de. Is mór an náire don Rialtas é go bhfuil a leithéid ar siúl

Níl sé ceart ná cóir sin a ardú anois. Ní pointe oird é.

Ba mhaith liom go dtarraingeodh sé siar an ráiteas a rinne sé. Tá an rud adúirt sé faoi 56 bliain náireach. Tá sé ag déanamh beag is fiú——

Bhí an ráiteas sin fíor. Dúirt sé——

Tá an Seanadóir féin ag maslú mhuintir na Gaeltachta.

With respect, Senator Ó Clochartaigh, tóg go bog é.

Tá sibh ag maslú mhuintir na Gaeltachta. Tá sibh ag tarraingt acmhainníó phobal na Gaeltachta ach níl sibh sásta é a phlé.

Senator Keane is not helping the situation. These are matters the Senator can debate with the Minister in a minute.

Le cead, is é an Ceannaire a rinne an ráiteas. Táim ag iarraidh air an ráiteas, maidir le 56 bliain caite againn ag fanacht le Bille Gaeltachta agus go mbeidh muid 56 bliain eile ag plé na ceiste, a tharraingt siar.

Níl sé ceart nó cóir é sin a phlé ag an am seo.

Níl an ráiteas ceart nó cóir agus ba chóir don gCeannaire é a tharraingt siar. Is mór an náire don Rialtas é.

Senator Diarmuid Wilson has moved an amendment to the Order of Business, "That a debate on the ongoing dispute at Lagan Brick be taken today."

Amendment put.
The Seanad divided: Tá, 14; Níl, 30.

  • Barrett, Sean D.
  • Byrne, Thomas.
  • Cullinane, David.
  • Daly, Mark.
  • Leyden, Terry.
  • Mooney, Paschal.
  • Norris, David.
  • Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor.
  • Ó Domhnaill, Brian.
  • O’Sullivan, Ned.
  • Power, Averil.
  • Reilly, Kathryn.
  • White, Mary M.
  • Wilson, Diarmuid.

Níl

  • Bacik, Ivana.
  • Bradford, Paul.
  • Brennan, Terry.
  • Burke, Colm.
  • Clune, Deirdre.
  • Coghlan, Eamonn.
  • Coghlan, Paul.
  • Comiskey, Michael.
  • Conway, Martin.
  • Cummins, Maurice.
  • D’Arcy, Jim.
  • D’Arcy, Michael.
  • Harte, Jimmy.
  • Hayden, Aideen.
  • Heffernan, James.
  • Higgins, Lorraine.
  • Keane, Cáit.
  • Kelly, John.
  • Landy, Denis.
  • Moloney, Marie.
  • Moran, Mary.
  • Mulcahy, Tony.
  • Mullen, Rónán.
  • Mullins, Michael.
  • Noone, Catherine.
  • O’Keeffe, Susan.
  • Quinn, Feargal.
  • Sheahan, Tom.
  • van Turnhout, Jillian.
  • Whelan, John.
Tellers: Tá, Senators Ned O’Sullivan and Diarmuid Wilson; Níl, Senators Paul Coghlan and Susan O’Keeffe.
Amendment declared lost.

Is the Order of Business agreed?

In light of the proposal by the Leader to guillotine one of the most important Bills to come before the House in 56 years we cannot possibly agree to the Order of Business. This Government enjoys the most unprecedented majority in the history of the State. If the Dáil cannot stop this Government from being anti-democratic this House has an obligation to do so. We are opposing the Order of Business on the basis of a very anti-democratic decision.

This Bill constitutes a flagrant disregard for democracy. It is about pushing through the democratic principles we fought for before the Civil War. It is a disgrace.

Question put: "That the Order of Business be agreed to."
The Seanad divided: Tá, 27; Níl, 17.

  • Bacik, Ivana.
  • Bradford, Paul.
  • Brennan, Terry.
  • Burke, Colm.
  • Clune, Deirdre.
  • Coghlan, Eamonn.
  • Coghlan, Paul.
  • Comiskey, Michael.
  • Conway, Martin.
  • Cummins, Maurice.
  • D’Arcy, Jim.
  • D’Arcy, Michael.
  • Harte, Jimmy.
  • Hayden, Aideen.
  • Heffernan, James.
  • Higgins, Lorraine.
  • Keane, Cáit.
  • Kelly, John.
  • Landy, Denis.
  • Moloney, Marie.
  • Moran, Mary.
  • Mulcahy, Tony.
  • Mullins, Michael.
  • Noone, Catherine.
  • O’Keeffe, Susan.
  • Sheahan, Tom.
  • Whelan, John.

Níl

  • Barrett, Sean D.
  • Byrne, Thomas.
  • Cullinane, David.
  • Daly, Mark.
  • Leyden, Terry.
  • Mooney, Paschal.
  • Mullen, Rónán.
  • Norris, David.
  • Ó Clochartaigh, Trevor.
  • Ó Domhnaill, Brian.
  • O’Sullivan, Ned.
  • Power, Averil.
  • Quinn, Feargal.
  • Reilly, Kathryn.
  • van Turnhout, Jillian.
  • White, Mary M.
  • Wilson, Diarmuid.
Tellers: Tá, Senators Paul Coghlan and Susan O’Keeffe; Níl, Senators Ned O’Sullivan and Diarmuid Wilson.
Question declared carried.

We will now move on to Bille na Gaeltachta.

There is no point in raising a point of order because the Order of Business has been agreed to. If the Senator has a point to make on the Bill, I suggest he makes it when the Minister of State is here.

Tá sé scanallach go bhfuil an Rialtas ag cur coisc ar dhíospóireacht daonlathach sa Teach seo ar chúrsaí Gaeltachta. Taispeánann sin drochmheas. Ba cheart go mbeadh náire ar an gCeannaire.

Speak on the Bill.

Níl sé fiú in ann mé a fhreagairt i nGaeilge. Is mór an náire dóé. Táthar ag tarraingt acmhainníó phobal na Gaeilge agus na Gaeltachta agus ag cur coisc ar dhíospóireacht——

(Interruptions).

Dá mbeadh sé ag tarlú don Seanad, bheadh siad ag léim suas agus anuas. Ba cheart go mbeadh náire orthu.

Ar phointe oird, tháinig an tAire Airgeadais isteach sa Teach seo Dé Máirt agus dúirt sé nach raibh sé ceart reachtaíocht a chur tríd an Teach seo faoi dheifir. Níl sé ceart an reachtaíocht seo a chur tríd an Teach faoi dheifir agus bhí an ceart ag an Aire Airgeadais faoi sin.

Ní pointe oird é sin. All of these points should be made to the Minister of State when he arrives.