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Dáil Éireann díospóireacht -
Wednesday, 6 May 1953

Vol. 138 No. 10

Resolution No. 2—Stamp Duties.

I move:—

(1) That in this Resolution "theprincipal Act" means the Stamp Act, 1891.

(2) (a) That where upon the exchange of any property for any other property the properties exchanged are not of equal value, the principal or only instrument (in this paragraph referred to as the said instrument) whereby the exchange is effected shall be charged with the same stamp duty, and be subject to the provisions of the principal Act (as amended by subsequent enactments), as if, instead of being such instrument, it were a conveyance on sale of the property which is of the greater value—

(i) which was made in consideration of a sum equal to the difference between the values of the properties exchanged,

(ii) which was made to the person or persons in whom there vests the property which is of the greater value,

(iii) under which the entire beneficial interest passed to the person becoming entitled to the entire beneficial interest in the property which is of the greater value, or, where more than one person becomes entitled to a beneficial interest therein, under which a beneficial interest passed to each of them, and

(iv) which contained any statements and certificates such as are referred to in section 13 of the Finance (No. 2) Act, 1947 (No. 33 of 1947), as amended by subsequent enactments, and section 21 of the Finance Act, 1952 (No. 14 of 1952), that might properly be contained therein if it were in fact such a conveyance on sale.

(b) That where there are several instruments for completing the title of either party to the exchange, the principal instrument is to be ascertained and the other instruments are to be charged with duty in the manner provided in the principal Act in the case of several instruments of conveyance.

(c) That the said instrument shall be deemed not to be duly stamped unless the Revenue Commissioners have expressed their opinion thereon in accordance with section 12 of the principal Act.

(d) That in this paragraph "property" means lands, tenements or hereditaments and "value", where used in relation to property, means the value of the property free from all charges and incumbrances.

(3) That section 73 of the principal Act shall not apply in relation to an exchange in relation to which the provisions contained in paragraph (2) of this Resolution apply and the references to the said section 73 contained under the heading "Exchange or Excambion" in the First Schedule to the principal Act shall, in the case of any such exchange, be construed as references to those provisions.

This Resolution is designed to stop the practice arising out of the fact that an exchange of one parcel of land for another is not in law a conveyance of sale. That fact has been taken advantage of by certain people to evade stamp duty on the conveyance of land and this Resolution is designed to stop that practice.

Is it quite clear that the reference in the last sub-paragraph to "any statements and certificates such as are referred to in Section 13 of the Finance (No. 2) Act, 1947 (No. 33 of 1947)" has the effect of limiting this Resolution purely to those people who are outside the 3 per cent. duty?

No. It covers everyone.

As the Minister's Budget statement went, as I heard it, this was purely to cover people who were trying to evade the 25 per cent duty.

That is right.

That is what the Budget statement said.

Shall I read what I said?

"Under the Stamp Acts as they stand, a purchaser of lands or houses can avoid the increase in duty, imposed some years ago, by adopting a somewhat devious method of acquiring the property."

There is no qualification there by reference to nationals or non-nationals. I went on to point out:—

"In the case of a non-national liable to pay at the 25 per cent. rate the duty evaded might be considerable."

It could be eight times more than in the case of a national.

Then this, in fact, is an additional burden on our own people as well as on non-nationals.

It is an attempt to make people pay what is properly due to the State under law.

In view of what the Minister has just said, would he give us some idea of what exactly has happened?

I do not think it is necessary to go any further than to say that an exchange of one parcel of land for another is not in law a conveyance of sale and that advantage has been taken of that fact to devise a means of acquiring land whereby stamp duty may be evaded.

If it is not in accordance with the present legal position, surely that can be dealt with.

That is what I propose to do.

No. The Minister says it is not in accordance with the present legal position.

No. I did not say that.

That is what I understood the Minister to say.

I do not think the Minister knows.

Is Financial Resolution No. 2 agreed to?

We can deal with it on the Finance Bill.

Question put and agreed to.
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